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Message: <blockquote data-quote="whompa73" data-source="post: 437986" data-attributes="member: 79538">I am involved in a debate among some friends and peirs on fb at the moment. Over the discission of the welsh goverment to addopt the opt out system of being put on the organ donation register. It is somthing I feel strongly about but cannot fully express non facebook as I havent told people that I have certain health problems. Eg stage 2 kidney disease kidney damage and evidence of liver damage  . And although I do realise in the grand scheme of things stage 2 is so mild a form it is not even seen as perticually a problem by drs I can assure you that when you are first told  that you have a problem especially when the dr starts talking about getting you started on meds so to try and stop the possability of kidny failure . That the news commes as quite a shock . And for me is also a personal thing and I dont want everyone knowing . For me the prospect of kidney disease if far more intimidating than the diabetes that probably caused it in the first place. And although I dont realy beleive or atleast cant see at the moment that there should ever be the need for a transplant (coz I is invincible init!) It is certainly somthing that perhaps requires a more introspective consideration . And after reading some of the posts I felt I had to have a say so this is my first post on the topic.Sory but I cannot agree with this. In principle I kind of uderstand .but in practice I cannot condone anything that takes away MY INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO MAKE A CHOICE FOR MYSELF. I do infact carry a donor card and obviously am a registered donor . But that is my right to choose I have made the disission to what I want to happen to my part after I am dead. The presumption of what I consent to by not opting out it to my mind fundamentally wrong . I my not of heared of the law . I may not know how to opt out. I may not have had chance yet to opt out. The paper work may have gone missing or filed wrong . The sheer arrogance of presumption and righteousness show by this law and the people who made it is astounding.  Only I have the right to decide not you. Make no mistake here this is about personal freedom and your human rights. I think any right minded person will agree to the donor scheme and the good it does but it should be a chiose no obligatory which is in essence what it will become as many people will not even realise that the law exists let alone how to opt out and the confusion surrounding it will be such the many wont even realise that it will be somthing they need to do. I personally equate it to the introduction of the helmet law I beleive it was fred hill that was the great exponant of riding free and makng your own choice not having that choice forced upon you. Obviously I had some people agreeing with me aswell as some who dissagreed . Some thought that the ability to choose was still available. While some seemed to think the right was on the side of those needing a transplantInfact one told me that the choice was still mine all I had to do was choose not to and the started quoting statistics . So this was my second replyNo on what planet is automatically being put on the register being give a chioce . And why should I have to wast my time and effort  and possably money to opt out of somthing I did not want in the first place . It is a total invasion of my personal rights. And give the track record of the great british government to correctly educate the populas to the change in the law .  does not fill me with confidence. A law that says tbey have a right to my body after I die . We will then be shafted again as those of religious heratage that sets forth strict doctrine on what should be done with the body will automatically be excluded . It is not a law of equality and it breaches my human rights. Obviously this is a very emotive subject . And some who had been waiting for transplants where talking of those they saw die while waiting. While another talked of seeing a 14 year old relitive deteriorate before dieing. Due to the arena of discussion eg facebook and not wanting folk to know whats going on medically I couldnt punctuate my feeling with saying why the subject had such a significance to recent events in my life and had to leave the discussion. I do realise the pain and suffering ofmthose awaiting a donor and feel for the famillys of those waiting and those who's time is either running or ran out. But I just cannot accept the concept that others have the right to make this dissission for me. And given my total lack of faith in the goverment and my tottal cynicism I am even asking myself how long before they start talking about an organ tax. And how much it will cost to be buried intact. Perhaps I am going a bit too far but I am sick and tired of having my rights eroded.  Please what are your thoughts</blockquote>

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