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<blockquote data-quote="Mbaker" data-source="post: 2432451" data-attributes="member: 256617"><p>This is all messed up because of nutritional epidemiology, in my view not worthy of to be associated with science.</p><p></p><p>Processed meats tend to accompany mixed meals like fast foods, microwave type meals or say doner kebab meat. They have been associated (only) by studies such as food frequency questionnaires, which are then interpreted to ensure meat is the problem, ignoring chips cooked in veg oil, breads, pasta etc. The results are always miniscule and never cross the threshold to go on to other more rigorous studies. The numbers are always 1.x, but inflated to look bigger by using relative risk so a 1.8 would be called 18%, when a real signal such as smoking causing cancer is a 10 plus.</p><p></p><p>Not saying low quality processed meat is good, but something like iberico ham or artisan Italian salami is not the same as a cheap and cheerful hot dog. The hypocrisy is astonishing as here's the ingredients of a so called healthy burger alterative, if we are talking over processed:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]50941[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>As for nitrates, those in vegetables don't get mentioned, only bacon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mbaker, post: 2432451, member: 256617"] This is all messed up because of nutritional epidemiology, in my view not worthy of to be associated with science. Processed meats tend to accompany mixed meals like fast foods, microwave type meals or say doner kebab meat. They have been associated (only) by studies such as food frequency questionnaires, which are then interpreted to ensure meat is the problem, ignoring chips cooked in veg oil, breads, pasta etc. The results are always miniscule and never cross the threshold to go on to other more rigorous studies. The numbers are always 1.x, but inflated to look bigger by using relative risk so a 1.8 would be called 18%, when a real signal such as smoking causing cancer is a 10 plus. Not saying low quality processed meat is good, but something like iberico ham or artisan Italian salami is not the same as a cheap and cheerful hot dog. The hypocrisy is astonishing as here's the ingredients of a so called healthy burger alterative, if we are talking over processed: [ATTACH=full]50941[/ATTACH] As for nitrates, those in vegetables don't get mentioned, only bacon. [/QUOTE]
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