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<blockquote data-quote="Peerless67" data-source="post: 1524222" data-attributes="member: 425152"><p>The devil is in the detail, 2 hours after midday meal 13.0. Although this is low for me it is quite a hike from the 8.4 I was prior to eating. So on investigation the tomato soup I had for dinner was not the no added sugar / low salt type I started out with.</p><p>I should also make it clear that I do not eat at breakfast at all, nothing to do with this diet it is just what I have always done. </p><p></p><p>So I have just black coffee in the morning, I estimate 400-500 ml</p><p></p><p>The "full fat" soup although only 204 calories a tin, has 27.2g of carbs (13.2g per 200ml serving) But I am having my breakfast and dinner in one sitting so I have the 400ml for dinner.</p><p>Something else I should have taken more care in choosing is the varieties of soups I purchased, I had vegetable yesterday and it contained potato and carrot, it was only 168 calories but 28.6g carbs.</p><p></p><p>The no added sugar / reduced salt tomato soup 400ml only has 20.2g of carbs and is only 136 calories for the whole can.</p><p>That is more inline with the brand used for the NC diet trial, although the protein is way lower. The Heinz soups do not have all the vitamins and minerals that are added to the Optifast but I take a multivitamin/ multimineral to compensate.</p><p></p><p>So I need to shop again and pick up the right varieties, I made the mistake of picking up chicken, minestrone, carrot and coriander and vegetable. When I originally shopped for my soups I was concentrating to much on calories, since it is meant to be a very low calorie diet. I shall now read the labels for the carbs.</p><p></p><p>I also did a calorie count for each day:</p><p></p><p>Tuesday Black coffee 1-5 Cal Tomato soup 136 Cal Roasted veg approx 200 Cal (ball park 350 cal)</p><p>Wednesday Black coffee 1-5 Cal Veg soup 168 Cal Roasted veg approx 200 Cal (Ball park 400 cal)</p><p></p><p>Today Black coffee 1-5 Cal "full fat" tomato soup 204 Cal </p><p>Later I will have roasted veg, just for a change <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> So I will be a bit over 400 Cal today.</p><p></p><p>Its hard to know whether the calories or the carbs are most important as the Optifast has similar levels of carbs per serving as the Heinz, but the NC diet says no meat no root veg bread or pasta yada yada yada. </p><p></p><p>I will continue on as previously as my BG is trending downward daily, but I will shop for lower carb soup. I did note that Optifast do chicken soup so maybe I do not have to exclude it and the increase protein may actually be of benefit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peerless67, post: 1524222, member: 425152"] The devil is in the detail, 2 hours after midday meal 13.0. Although this is low for me it is quite a hike from the 8.4 I was prior to eating. So on investigation the tomato soup I had for dinner was not the no added sugar / low salt type I started out with. I should also make it clear that I do not eat at breakfast at all, nothing to do with this diet it is just what I have always done. So I have just black coffee in the morning, I estimate 400-500 ml The "full fat" soup although only 204 calories a tin, has 27.2g of carbs (13.2g per 200ml serving) But I am having my breakfast and dinner in one sitting so I have the 400ml for dinner. Something else I should have taken more care in choosing is the varieties of soups I purchased, I had vegetable yesterday and it contained potato and carrot, it was only 168 calories but 28.6g carbs. The no added sugar / reduced salt tomato soup 400ml only has 20.2g of carbs and is only 136 calories for the whole can. That is more inline with the brand used for the NC diet trial, although the protein is way lower. The Heinz soups do not have all the vitamins and minerals that are added to the Optifast but I take a multivitamin/ multimineral to compensate. So I need to shop again and pick up the right varieties, I made the mistake of picking up chicken, minestrone, carrot and coriander and vegetable. When I originally shopped for my soups I was concentrating to much on calories, since it is meant to be a very low calorie diet. I shall now read the labels for the carbs. I also did a calorie count for each day: Tuesday Black coffee 1-5 Cal Tomato soup 136 Cal Roasted veg approx 200 Cal (ball park 350 cal) Wednesday Black coffee 1-5 Cal Veg soup 168 Cal Roasted veg approx 200 Cal (Ball park 400 cal) Today Black coffee 1-5 Cal "full fat" tomato soup 204 Cal Later I will have roasted veg, just for a change :) So I will be a bit over 400 Cal today. Its hard to know whether the calories or the carbs are most important as the Optifast has similar levels of carbs per serving as the Heinz, but the NC diet says no meat no root veg bread or pasta yada yada yada. I will continue on as previously as my BG is trending downward daily, but I will shop for lower carb soup. I did note that Optifast do chicken soup so maybe I do not have to exclude it and the increase protein may actually be of benefit. [/QUOTE]
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