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Who are these "we", of whom you speak?
Reading other posts, I think it'll actually reinforce the guidelines.
We're saying a 800 calorie, weight reduction diet is the way forward.
So, basically, all diabetics are overweight, and need to go on a diet, and lose weight.
The classic stereotype there.
(And when you look at the fat in the shakes, actually low fat is the diet recommended)
So I didn't sign it.
Who are these "we", of whom you speak?
The shakes may be proportionately high carb to their calorific value, however, with three shakes a day, that's 60gr carb. Obviously there are a few carbs to add in the portion of vegetable recommended.
As I understand it less than 130gr is considered low carb. I have also seen 150gr quoted. Indeed on this page: http://www.dietdoctor.com/how-low-carb-is-lchf , even Diet Doctor suggests 50-100gr per day equates to liberal LCHF.
I have mentioned in the past that I have corresponded with Professor Taylor, directly. although not in recent months. During one interchange, I asked what dietary recommendations he made, for post-study maintenance were made to his participants who were considered to have reversed their T2, with a view to continued reversal. His response was along the lines that aside from ensuring they were clear that regaining weight would be extremely unhelpful, and that that probably involved eating smaller portions (and pre-diagnosis), ongoing diet was their choice, but that many did elect to follow a low-carb diet.
I'd agree with @Brunneria that the petition is written very badly drafted..
Read the petition 'we're' signing.
Or not.
Could there be another 'we' you have in mind?
Brunneria explained it well in post #12I wouldn't have asked if I knew.
I would suggest, that 15% of fat, and 50% of carbs, and 800 calories overall, seems to be a very poor grasping at straws to put this diet forward as LCHF, and I doubt the dietdoctor would support a very low calorie low fat diet to be honest.
But, each to his, (or her) own take on it.
I would assume, as you feel so strongly it supports you, and as you have quoted two other memorable persons, you have indeed signed up?
I would love to be there for the debate in that case.
By your own argument on calorie restriction, you are supporting diet that limits fat to 9g a day.
As a good thing, supported by this forum? Are you really sure that is your argument?
I eat more than that, and wouldn't want to go that low.
You are twisting things here somewhat.
I didn't suggest for a nanosecond the ND is High Fat. My response was to reiterate a common interpretation of Low Carb, and stating the 50-100gr is Moderately LCHF is lifted from the Diet Doctor site.
My posts on this forum make my position quite clear. I have no intention of entering a repetitive argument with you.
There is a petition currently running entitled "NHS to encourage the treatment of type 2 diabetes with a low carbohydrate diet". So far it has attracted a paltry 358 signatures. It needs 10,000 to invoke a reaction from HMG and 100,000 to get a chance of being debated in the House of Commons.
If you want to help raise the profile on Low Carbs you can find the petition here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125704 and hopefully we can get a debate on the issue.
It is a rather messy petition, to be honest....
...I would be first in line to sign a better written petition, but not this one.
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