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<blockquote data-quote="Beating-My-Betes" data-source="post: 2458762" data-attributes="member: 532959"><p>It's perfectly possible for contradictory positions to exist. What I mean is that just because you have managed to heal yourself with a high-fat diet, doesn't disprove the ideas posited by heart-health science. In the case of high-cholesterol numbers, the low-carb movement response has been to throw caution to the wind and just reinterpret the numbers., based on what at least at the moment seems to be scant evidence.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying there is no merit to the idea that markers may need re-evaluating. The problem is (and this goes for much of what you say in this post), that we will likely never get 100%, concrete, certifiable scientific results (It's just not ethical to conduct the kinds of human experiments that would lead to removal of such doubts). So we have to muddle along the best we can.</p><p></p><p>If you are convinced that your current improvements in health are predictive of ongoing, future health, then that's all good. I would never claim to know otherwise. I'd just caution against dismissing science altogether.</p><p></p><p>Edited, to add: Also, just because one heals on a high-fat diet (same goes for low-fat), doesn't mean it was due to the high-fat. The biggest 'confounder' in judging the merit of fat quantity alone is weight-loss. Bu that, I mean, that it's very likely that in the majority of cases where ill-health came hand-in-hand with added weight, that just losing that weight seems to have a profound effect on those forms of disease Metabolic syndrome etc). That again, offers no certitude for future-health, even if weight is maintained.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure there are cases of people improving BG numbers etc. on keto without losing weight (They exist on the high-carb side, also), but I'd be surprised if they make up the majority on this forum, and certainly not in the extended health-sphere</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beating-My-Betes, post: 2458762, member: 532959"] It's perfectly possible for contradictory positions to exist. What I mean is that just because you have managed to heal yourself with a high-fat diet, doesn't disprove the ideas posited by heart-health science. In the case of high-cholesterol numbers, the low-carb movement response has been to throw caution to the wind and just reinterpret the numbers., based on what at least at the moment seems to be scant evidence. I'm not saying there is no merit to the idea that markers may need re-evaluating. The problem is (and this goes for much of what you say in this post), that we will likely never get 100%, concrete, certifiable scientific results (It's just not ethical to conduct the kinds of human experiments that would lead to removal of such doubts). So we have to muddle along the best we can. If you are convinced that your current improvements in health are predictive of ongoing, future health, then that's all good. I would never claim to know otherwise. I'd just caution against dismissing science altogether. Edited, to add: Also, just because one heals on a high-fat diet (same goes for low-fat), doesn't mean it was due to the high-fat. The biggest 'confounder' in judging the merit of fat quantity alone is weight-loss. Bu that, I mean, that it's very likely that in the majority of cases where ill-health came hand-in-hand with added weight, that just losing that weight seems to have a profound effect on those forms of disease Metabolic syndrome etc). That again, offers no certitude for future-health, even if weight is maintained. I'm sure there are cases of people improving BG numbers etc. on keto without losing weight (They exist on the high-carb side, also), but I'd be surprised if they make up the majority on this forum, and certainly not in the extended health-sphere [/QUOTE]
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