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Picaboo2

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Hi! I'm from Norway so my English isn't the best, hope it's okay!
I have a toddler at 2.5 years. Three times this last month he has had some sort of seizures in the morning. It starts with him beeing very very thirsty the night before, then in the morning he won't wake up properly. He has absolutely no strength in his body, can’t even sit, and he can't get his eyes up for more than some seconds. He can only manage to answer shortly like yes or no, and complains a little about stomach pain. At the same time he is sweating a lot, his hair is all wet. He does not have a fever (but have had a lot of fever episodes this winter, 18 times between Sept-April, and was hospitalized with RS-virus in November. So his immune system hasn’t been the best). We are very used to see him quite sick from viruses, but have never seen him as ill as this before.
Then when he is given food it only takes about 10-15 minutes before he gets better, and is completely fine again within one hour.
We have been to our family doctor who didn’t know what it was, and didn’t want to take any blood samples since he is in generally good shape except for these mornings. But she suspected it is blood sugar related. If it happens again they want to take a blood sugar test right away.
We are waiting for an appointment to a children’s doctor at the hospital, but we don’t know yet when they can take him in.
He is not abnormally thirsty other than these nights right before.
Have anyone experienced this sort of symptoms in the beginning of diabetes, or have you heard of any other conditions it resembles to?
 
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Sorry, but not in my experience. All I can suggest is to get some urine test strips, and test his urine for glucose and ketones. It is non invasive so easy to do at home. He should not have either of those indicators moving off the neg colour.

My test strips also check for infections too. If his stomach ache is on (his) right side just behind his bottom rib then that is where the gall bladder and pancreas normally hide, a pain in that area could indicate infection in one of those organs. But you really need a pediatrician to diagnose childhood problems. Its a speciality that I do not have.
 
Thank you so much, I will try the urine test strips! I'm not sure if the stomach pain is actually pain or if he just confuses it with hunger, cause the pain stops after he has eaten.
We are waiting for our appointment with a pediatrician at the hospital, but we don’t know yet when they have time for us. It’s often a long waiting list here in Norway if it’s not urgent. So in the meantime (while I’m probably stressing way too much about this), I’m just curious to know if anyone have experienced something similar.
 
Picaboo2 said:
Thank you so much, I will try the urine test strips! I'm not sure if the stomach pain is actually pain or if he just confuses it with hunger, cause the pain stops after he has eaten.
We are waiting for our appointment with a pediatrician at the hospital, but we don’t know yet when they have time for us. It’s often a long waiting list here in Norway if it’s not urgent. So in the meantime (while I’m probably stressing way too much about this), I’m just curious to know if anyone have experienced something similar.
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If the pain was due to inflammation it probably would continue after eating, so it may well be hunger pangs or heartburn. Its the wet hair that I find confusing. Is he running a temperature when it happens, or is it what we would call a cold sweat? If he is not hot, then this could indicte hypoglycemia as a possibility, expecially with confusion and lethargy. If this is happening then his ketones may rise due to fat burning. He may breath out fruit drop breath due to acetone. If this is detected he needs to be treated by a medic.
 
This may be relevant
https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/congenital-hyperinsulinism/
However, it does not mention thirst as a symptom. It does say that it is associated with fasting which is the condition overnight when sleeping, and would be worst on waking before eating. unfortunately there is no simple test available to diagnose this condition. The test is c-peptide blood test.
 
Picaboo2 said:
Hi! I'm from Norway so my English isn't the best, hope it's okay!
I have a toddler at 2.5 years. Three times this last month he has had some sort of seizures in the morning. It starts with him beeing very very thirsty the night before, then in the morning he won't wake up properly. He has absolutely no strength in his body, can’t even sit, and he can't get his eyes up for more than some seconds. He can only manage to answer shortly like yes or no, and complains a little about stomach pain. At the same time he is sweating a lot, his hair is all wet. He does not have a fever (but have had a lot of fever episodes this winter, 18 times between Sept-April, and was hospitalized with RS-virus in November. So his immune system hasn’t been the best). We are very used to see him quite sick from viruses, but have never seen him as ill as this before.
Then when he is given food it only takes about 10-15 minutes before he gets better, and is completely fine again within one hour.
We have been to our family doctor who didn’t know what it was, and didn’t want to take any blood samples since he is in generally good shape except for these mornings. But she suspected it is blood sugar related. If it happens again they want to take a blood sugar test right away.
We are waiting for an appointment to a children’s doctor at the hospital, but we don’t know yet when they can take him in.
He is not abnormally thirsty other than these nights right before.
Have anyone experienced this sort of symptoms in the beginning of diabetes, or have you heard of any other conditions it resembles to?
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Hi

Welcome to the forum.

The symptoms sound a little like a hypo.? However, This is not asssosiated with an untreated diabetic condition like T1. Where BGs will run high..

I’m sorry you have a prolonged wait for your child to see a doctor. But only an HCP can diagnose your kid. We as members cannot.
Your best chance of clues to your child’s symptoms (or to rule out.) is acquire a blood test meter?
Even with clean hands just after your child has eaten, a blood tests could give a clue as to BG levels those 10/15 prior with a ball park level.

Best wishes.
 
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Oldvatr said:
If the pain was due to inflammation it probably would continue after eating, so it may well be hunger pangs or heartburn. Its the wet hair that I find confusing. Is he running a temperature when it happens, or is it what we would call a cold sweat? If he is not hot, then this could indicte hypoglycemia as a possibility, expecially with confusion and lethargy. If this is happening then his ketones may rise due to fat burning. He may breath out fruit drop breath due to acetone. If this is detected he needs to be treated by a medic.
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No he does not have a fever, I've measured his temperature everytime and it’s normal. So it is a cold sweat. Didn’t notice fruity breath, but I’ll keep that in mind if it happens again. Thank you very much for your advices!
 
Jaylee said:
Hi

Welcome to the forum.

The symptoms sound a little like a hypo.? However, This is not asssosiated with an untreated diabetic condition like T1. Where BGs will run high..

I’m sorry you have a prolonged wait for your child to see a doctor. But only an HCP can diagnose your kid. We as members cannot.
Your best chance of clues to your child’s symptoms (or to rule out.) is acquire a blood test meter?
Even with clean hands just after your child has eaten, a blood tests could give a clue as to BG levels those 10/15 prior with a ball park level.

Best wishes.
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Thank you. Just want to make it clear that I do not expect anyone here to give us a diagnose, that will of course be up to the doctors.
But I’ve tried to find similar stories with toddlers and are having a hard time finding that. I just want to be as best prepared as possible and find the right questions to ask the doctors.
But it is a relief to hear that this is not associated with untreated diabetes. I will try the urine strip tests home, as it is less invasive, and let it be up to the doctors to decide regarding blood tests. Thank you for your feedback.
 
Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on.
 
Hi! So we went to the doctor, and they took several blod tests which all came out fine. The doctor didn’t have any explanation for what could be the reason, but had one previous case with an older child with similar symptoms who also had perfect blood tests. The remedy was simply to make sure the child ate very often. And luckily we haven’t had any more of these episodes.
 
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