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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jjraak" data-source="post: 2204459" data-attributes="member: 493719">For those scientific responses, most grateful and will consume over coming days.But for a simple lad like me, it goes (mostly) like this.*1)  Eat poorly for many years,  (aka SAD) and we 'Fill up' our bodies with the issues that present as T2*2)  Get Dx and continue on that path until...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite69" alt=":wideyed:" title="Wide Eyed    :wideyed:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":wideyed:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite70" alt=":woot:" title="Woot    :woot:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":woot:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite14" alt=":arghh:" title="Arghh    :arghh:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":arghh:" />*3)  Take alternative actions.*4)   Resulting drainage of stored glucose, results in diminished Glucose / insulin intolerance issues*5)   Return to SAD, and the process simply begins again, most possible accelerated as we are already damaged.So whatever type of wording we use, that old way of eating has sailed off into the sunset.eat the SAD way once 'cured' if you wish, but expect the return, sooner then you think of the beast within..imho.Whichever version of LCHF is chosen, it is seemingly more sustainable over many years for so many.Dr Unwins cohorts perhaps.happy those who choose other methods are successful, however would have preferred the LCHF to also  have been studied in such depth and properly evaluated as in Liver scans etc, As i understood it, the original debate was can the results of Bariatric surgery be replicated, without the surgery.and yes..if people don't eat enough, it can..BUT can they replicate it, year after year..imo No.Find it hard to incredible that such a way (LCHF) can exist, have so many managing this disease successfully using it,yet is almost ignored in the preference to a diet that they last tried in 'Tenko'..<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes    :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />.imho.</blockquote>

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