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<blockquote data-quote="DavidGrahamJones" data-source="post: 1811831" data-attributes="member: 245335"><p>Just in case anyone has got to this without seeing my previous comments, I have no doubt that if one is overweight, weight loss is desirable, however, I have a problem with their "hypothesis" that it's the weight loss that's solely responsible for the better BG control. </p><p></p><p>When they compared their HbA1c scores at the beginning and after 8 weeks. Dramatic improvement all round. As the HbA1c reflects a sort of average for the previous 8 to 12 weeks then obviously their BG dropped as soon as they went onto the VLCD. The 4 week scores may not have been so brilliant because it would have included several weeks before they started. The fact that their BG dropped straight away was obviously expected because they were told to stop taking their medication at the very start.</p><p></p><p>It would be very interesting to see exactly what their diets were before they started because with their blood results looking so appalling despite being on medication, their diets must have also been appalling. Certainly they seemed to relish in filming the welsh guy eating the biggest burger I've seen AND chips. </p><p></p><p>The whole setup was very contrived, four weeks away from the real world must have made it easier to stick to 4 shakes a day. Not impossible in the real world, just a lot trickier. </p><p></p><p>Interesting and disappointing because it glossed over so much, including what they did after the 8 weeks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DavidGrahamJones, post: 1811831, member: 245335"] Just in case anyone has got to this without seeing my previous comments, I have no doubt that if one is overweight, weight loss is desirable, however, I have a problem with their "hypothesis" that it's the weight loss that's solely responsible for the better BG control. When they compared their HbA1c scores at the beginning and after 8 weeks. Dramatic improvement all round. As the HbA1c reflects a sort of average for the previous 8 to 12 weeks then obviously their BG dropped as soon as they went onto the VLCD. The 4 week scores may not have been so brilliant because it would have included several weeks before they started. The fact that their BG dropped straight away was obviously expected because they were told to stop taking their medication at the very start. It would be very interesting to see exactly what their diets were before they started because with their blood results looking so appalling despite being on medication, their diets must have also been appalling. Certainly they seemed to relish in filming the welsh guy eating the biggest burger I've seen AND chips. The whole setup was very contrived, four weeks away from the real world must have made it easier to stick to 4 shakes a day. Not impossible in the real world, just a lot trickier. Interesting and disappointing because it glossed over so much, including what they did after the 8 weeks. [/QUOTE]
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