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PROTEIN - Can someone please explain

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hi all, could someone please explain to me the reason why
eating too much protein can be bad for a type II in the long run,
and how
eating too much can put up or keep up high bg numbers
and what exactly is the right amount of protien to be eating in one day, that would faciliate getting bg lower on a low carb diet. Am currently trying to loose a lot of weight and get bg numbers down from 8-11 average to normal levels. I have about 8 stone to loose I think, have lost one, in the last 4 weeks I have got my bg readings from over 20 to 10ish, on a low carb diet I am loosing and feeling much better but I am worried that I am eating too much protien, and so am not really doing any good. It all feels a bit much right now, got to have low salt for blood pressure low fat for weight loss, low carb and I did think that protien was the only way to go. I have about 100 g ham with toast for breakfast. a tin of mackeral with salad at lunch soya milk snack and then at dinner I have a large lean pork chop or 2 large chicken breasts or 2 smaller chops of a large peice of salmon or cod with peas or chick peas, and some strawbs or blueberries each day. Is this too much protien? Is this a reasonable diet to acheive lower bg levels. having come down from 20bg to 10 average now, I cant seem to get it any lower. Sorry if I have had a moan here, I will be very glad to have anyone's help or advice or suggestions thankyou ps the weight to coming off with this diet its the bg I am stuck with thanks
 
Hi Red, looking at your portion sizes ,do you think you can cut them down a bit? The toast at breakfast will raise your bg but 100gm of ham will also raise it because protein does convert to glucose as well only more slowly.I think it's 50-60 % ,something like that anyway.If you cut down the portions a little then you may find the weight lose will speed up.Try using a smaller sized plate to eat off.It actually works!! :D Peas are quite high in carbs so have a look at veggies with a lower carb level such as cauliflower,broccoli etc.If you can get one I recommend the Collins Gem carb counter book.It is only about £3.50 and is small ,fits in a pocket and handy when shopping.
 
thankyou sugarless sue, the amount that I stated is actually the dramatically reduced amounts, oh dear. Yes I definately will cut the protien down then I didnt realize that this also affected the bg that directly, all of this is a bit more complex than I thought, as I guess is obvious once there is an interaction of several factors. I guess I thought as long as I kept the calories down , protein was my only free for all, not! oh well guess that will have to be cut down now, its good to know the facts so thank you. I guess I have been very simply just eating far far too much for too long, without knowing the implications of this. The only thing I was obviously aware of was that I was very overweight which didnt really bother me too much, didnt like it but I am not prepared to get ill when I can do something about it. I really appreciate this forum, and hope eventually I can contribute positively. Be glad of any other suggestions, and will certainly take yours sue
 
Take it easy Red! cut down slowly so you are not tempted to stray!!Eat plenty veg.this is where you should get most of your carbs from.
I've lost three stone low carbing but to begin with you suffer from carb withdrawal.Once you get past that you become less hungry and it becomes easier to cut down the portions.Look at what you like to eat.Check out the carb content in the book I recommended and then calculate your carbs .If you enjoy what you are eating then low carbing is not difficult!!If you eat what you think you should eat without liking it then you will be tempted to eat the 'goodies' especially when stressed or low in mood.
Above all test!! If you test before a meal and then 2 hours after and the numbers are near enough the same then you got that meal right.Keep a food diary for at least a week noting the readings and what you ate and you will see a pattern of foods which do affect your blood sugars and those that do not.We are all different so what you can eat may be different from what I can eat.
 
Protein is NOT harmful, unless your kidneys have already been substantially wrecked as a result of eating far too many carbs

After all it's been the mainstay of our diet for several millennia

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

Eat loads of different vegetables except for starchy things like potatoes and grains.

It's the carbs that will make you put on weight by shooting your BG up and requiring high levels of insulin to process.

Even more paradoxically fats are unlikely to make you fat *unless* you eat them with the mandatory loads of carbs.

To a degree you can convert protein into glucose, but you can use fats as fuel directly. The balance between these on a low carb diet tends to be fairly individual, try doing some testing as per

http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/d-day.html
 
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