Marieukxx
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It was chicken in tomato and pepper saucfe with mashed potato. It was a diet meal from their range
It was chicken in tomato and pepper saucfe with mashed potato. It was a diet meal from their rangeOn the records I keep (own spreadsheet), of pre and post meal readings, I have a space for one, two and three hours after meals. I wouldn't normally fill them all in! Sometimes there are limited opportunities to test so that determines which column is completed, and different meals will peak at different times. For example, porridge (low GI) will peak late, but a glass of fruit juice will peak early. Anything eaten accompanied by fatty food, will be slowed down, so greasy roast spuds, will take longer than mashed ones.
So, the important point is that you compare like with like and know when tests were taken. Have your own limits for a particular time. The limits we work to are 7 and under for one hour, six and under for two hours. Five and under for fasting and three hours. This is very strict, but is achieved with a low carb diet and has resulted in consistently good, non-diabetc, HbA1c test results.
Concerning the OP's @Marieukxx M&S meal, I would consider the results to be a little bit too high and 40g of carbs to be a bit too much. But Rome wan't built in a day, and its not a bad start. I wonder what the meal was? Did it include mashed potato or pasta? Or had sugar been used to replace fat? Marie, do think about what was actually in the meal. You may be able to have something very similar, just tweaked a little to reduce quickly digested carbs.
Sally
Yes I wouldn't normally eat a ready meal anymore. I wanted to test it outWas this your experiment to test out what a carby meal does to you, as mentioned on another thread?
I don't have to show my nurse my readings, but if I did I would show her both the 1 hour and 2 hour readings, and also the 3 hour readings if you have them. If you have a high rise at 1 hour but it is back to where you started at 2 hours, this is good. (in my opinion) if it is still high at 2 hours, above 7.8 or 8.5 depending which guidelines you use, it is not good. (in my opinion). If it is still above where you started at 3 hours, it is not good. You were coming down on that meal, but not by enough.
I also test before I eat, then at 1 hour and 2 hours after the first bite. If the 2 hour reading is higher, I will test again at 2.5 hours after first bite.
As for first bite, sometimes a meal might take half an hour to finish if you have 2 or more courses, but I still test an hour after first bite on the grounds that the food is being digested as soon as you take your first mouthful.
As others have said, the timing of the peak depends on the type of carbs in the meal plus the amount of fat. Fat slows down the digestive process. Very little fat, you will peak earlier, more fat you will peak later. High GI carbs will peak earlier, others will peak later etc etc. I keep a spread sheet record of all my readings alongside the meal I ate, so I know which meals will peak early and which will linger longer.
I am always a slow eater regardless. I'm always sitting there still with half a plate when others have finished. Takeaway or not.I may have misled the OP on another thread by saying "after the first bite". What I meant was start timing at the meal kick-off as opposed to measuring 2 hours after the END of a meal which OP had been doing.
The meal on that thread was a takeaway eaten with family members. SocIal eating usually takes longer than eating on your own, in my experience, therefore it is more consistent to start timing from the start of a meal as the finishing times can vary.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/question-about-my-bg-tonight.62053/#post-597968
I know exactly how long that ready meal took me to eat as I wrote it down. I ate fairly fast compared to how I would normally eat. It took 20 minutes to finishI can see the rationale for something like a large muliti-course meal in a restaurant which as you say tends to take a fair bit longer and also can have all sorts of ingredients that aren't a good idea. But not for "everyday" eating and particularly for eating and I quote:
a diet meal from marks and spencers count on us range
I don't see the point at all. Meals of that type tend to be consumed fairly rapidly.
I don't know tbh if it's good or bad? I was shocked at the hour reading of 9, I don't really know about the others. I would think that meal isn't one to put on my list because it was 7.6 after two hours is that right?So what are your feelings about your experiment and how your body dealt with it?
My advice would be sit down, test your blood, start eating, test 2 hours later.I don't know tbh if it's good or bad? I was shocked at the hour reading of 9, I don't really know about the others. I would think that meal isn't one to put on my list because it was 7.6 after two hours is that right?
I wrote down the 7.8 result after two hours for my book. Am I doing right testing after first bite?
ThanksMy advice would be sit down, test your blood, start eating, test 2 hours later.
Thank you Bluetite1802For a diabetic it wasn't drastic but not good either. I wouldn't put it on my list of foods to eat. far to many carbs, and starchy ones at that.
The NICE guidelines say under 8.5 at 2 hours so it was within that. However, 8.5 is a bit generous. Many on here aim for under 7.8, and many more aim for a lot lower. We all have our personal targets. Your nurse will say it is a good reading because she will be following the NICE guidelines for diabetics.
Yes, you are doing right to test 1 hour and 2 hours after your first bite.
Was this your experiment to test out what a carby meal does to you, as mentioned on another thread?
I don't have to show my nurse my readings, but if I did I would show her both the 1 hour and 2 hour readings, and also the 3 hour readings if you have them. If you have a high rise at 1 hour but it is back to where you started at 2 hours, this is good. (in my opinion) if it is still high at 2 hours, above 7.8 or 8.5 depending which guidelines you use, it is not good. (in my opinion). If it is still above where you started at 3 hours, it is not good. You were coming down on that meal, but not by enough.
I also test before I eat, then at 1 hour and 2 hours after the first bite. If the 2 hour reading is higher, I will test again at 2.5 hours after first bite.
As for first bite, sometimes a meal might take half an hour to finish if you have 2 or more courses, but I still test an hour after first bite on the grounds that the food is being digested as soon as you take your first mouthful.
As others have said, the timing of the peak depends on the type of carbs in the meal plus the amount of fat. Fat slows down the digestive process. Very little fat, you will peak earlier, more fat you will peak later. High GI carbs will peak earlier, others will peak later etc etc. I keep a spread sheet record of all my readings alongside the meal I ate, so I know which meals will peak early and which will linger longer.
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So do you believe that the NHS really tell GP's and practise nurses to give advice to diabetics that they know is wrong just so GP's can prescribe pills to people that don't need them..I would not want to believe that.it goes aginst everything a docotor is supposed to do they are the only ones we can trust to give us the right treatment when we are sick. So would you trust your GP's advice when it comes to treatment for any other illness you may have.
Your nurse will say it is a good reading because she will be following the NICE guidelines for diabetics.
Yes, you are doing right to test 1 hour and 2 hours after your first bite.
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