Type 2 Quick Weight Loss

Hi, @Rmoliv .
As you have most likely noticed, the speed of loss is not the most important thing. It is the maintaining weightloss that counts. What you probably need is not a 'diet' but a way of eating for life. Most members with T2 diabetes find Low carb or ketogenic ways of eating are successful. The weight loss may be slower, but is generally sustained.

That said, some have had success with intermittent fasting, and / or having an 8 hour 'window' to eat, so that they are in effect fasting for 16 hours.

I have had rapid weight loss using Newcastle diet method. However, this needs careful consideration, and includes a follow on plan after the initial Very Low Calorie phase.

What you probably don't want me to tell you is that there is no quick fix. Most crash diets fail long term, and yoyo dieting is just not good for you. Sorry to be bearer of bad news, but will reiterate.... You don't need a diet, you need a forever eating plan.

rab5 said:

Hi pip

Out of interest what is the follow on plan for the Newcastle diet

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Hi @rab5 It is all in here....
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm

rab5 said:

Pip
Thanks for that link. Am I reading it right that after losing the weight they say you can go back to eating carbs?

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My understanding is that the recommendation is to eat a 'healthy' diet. Just eat less. That is putting it simply.
From personal experience, for about two or three years after the calorie restriction phase I was able to eat carbs in great quantity. However, this resulted in regaining around half the weight I had lost. I admit, I hadn't been following the instruction to eat less, though one thing I noticed was that the carbs did not adversely affect my blood glucose levels. I even faced a challenge by some members here to overload on carbs. This was not a good idea, as I find carbs addictive. Inevitably there was more weight gain. I manage to maintain good blood glucose levels by low carbing, and my weight remains fairly static which is currently still in the obese range, and recently have for first time in 7 years had a HbA1c in diabetic range.

Of course the Newcastle team are still using the term 'healthy diet' to mean that recommended by NHS, which in my opinion, is a flaw in their methodology. Also, popular media has jumped on the bandwagon, suggesting Newcastle diet as the 'cure all' for those with T2 diabetes. If only it was so simple!

bulkbiker said:

Hi Pipp were you actually on the trial or did you do it yourself?
I had a quiet word with a certain GP, who knows Prof Taylor, when I met him who told me that now they are now more likely to recommend a reduced carb diet post the protocol but are not especially keen to publicise this. I don't know if this advice has changed from the "reduce calories by a third" to maintain the weight loss which I know was the advice given to the original two trials participants and in my mind dooms them to failure from the get go in terms of keeping the weight off in the long term.

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When I corresponded with Professor Taylor, back in 2014 (how time flies!), I was asking him about PFTs, weight loss by other means (in my case LC, eating to my meter, with no regard to weight), then maintenance mode, having potentially crossed my PFT, I asked about follow on ways of eating.

In his response, Professor taylor states that LC tends (in 2014) to be the most popular and successful in terms of long term weight loss, but whatever suits the individual is acceptable.

That isn't a copy and paste from the email, but is effectively his comment.

@bulkbiker, @DCUKMod

My experience with Newcastle diet, and communications with the research team, were in the very early days, starting with emails way back in 2010. I had read an article about the Prof's work in a newspaper, went and found the journal article and used it in an argumement with the doctor at the local NHS weight management service who had insisted that the only solution for my problem was surgery.
I was not on the official research trial, and, after making the initial enquiry, left much of the communication with the research team to my GP, who at that time seemed to have more time for new and innovative patient centred interventions. He had taken some convincing at first, thinking I was some sort of nut who wanted a miracle. Which was why I thought it best if he asked the questions of the 'experts', rather than try to convince him myself. It was summer 2011 before I made the start with the meal replacements. What I got from the Newcastle team was the standard info given regarding meal replacement, followed by calorie restriction for ever. Oh and because I had sparked his interest the GP and local independent pharmacist monitored the process in the meal replacement and transition phases.