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<blockquote data-quote="HSSS" data-source="post: 2197310" data-attributes="member: 480869"><p>Hi. To answer your questions</p><p></p><p>I wouldn’t rely on how you feel. Many on here, even some with very high numbers have no symptoms. Others get symptoms at low numbers. It’s not reliable. The only way to know is to test. At home on your own meter is best as it allows you to see what each meal is doing to your blood glucose levels and adjust the next similar meal if required. Get tested regularly at the drs in any case.</p><p></p><p>Sadly you seem to have been caught by the same trap as most and gone for the low fat option. It is the carbohydrates in what you eat that make a difference to diabetes not the fat. And if you adjust those to suit your body then your weight should adjust accordingly. Think of a seesaw. Remove carbs and add fats and proteins instead. Yes I did say add fats. Most of us type 2 in here sort out our diabetes and loose excess weight whilst adding fats - so long as we reduce carbs. It might not mean adding a lot of fat. Maybe just ditching the low fat stuff and using normal stuff. It’s incredibly important to keep you feeling full and having energy. Low fat products tend to add sugars and chemicals instead. How many carbs you cut and how much fat you add is highly personal.</p><p></p><p>So looking at what you ate. The bread, the oats, the banana especially but most fruits with the exception of berries, the crackers and the cider are all problematic. Dry wines or spirits with diet mixers are a better choice than beers or ciders. The eggs, the water, salads, plain yoghurt, (normal not low fat) cheese, meat and veg are all good as is the exercise</p><p></p><p>Here’s a few links to get you started. Take them one at a time as it’s a lot of reading.</p><p></p><p>Can I suggest you take a good look at LCHF ie low carb higher fat (than typically recommended) methods of eating (keto is just a version of this). It’s how an awful lot of us get our blood sugar levels under control and for some even eliminate medications and achieve remission and also reduce or improve complications. It is often the easiest and most sustainable form of weight loss for a type 2 if you need that. Other conditions often improve including but not limited to blood pressure, joint pain, inflammation, PCOS, and despite the dire warnings of the last few decades it improves cholesterol for most, yes improves cholesterol. Some jump right on it, others edge their toes in a bit at a time. Be aware the the USA count carbs differently so be aware if you look at their counting, recipes or products. They include fibre in their count we don’t. So if it’s USA stuff deduct the fibre to get our figures. (Fibre isn’t generally digested thus doesn’t get counted)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Try clicking these links for more detailed explanations that are well worth readings.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.26870/" target="_blank">http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.26870/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/" target="_blank">https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/</a> for info including low carb made simple</p><p></p><p></p><p>And <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/" target="_blank">https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/</a> to show it really works and for motivation</p><p></p><p></p><p>and <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/" target="_blank">https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/</a> for food ideas</p><p></p><p></p><p>also <a href="https://www.dietdoctor.com/" target="_blank">https://www.dietdoctor.com/</a> for more food ideas and general info of carb content of foods. Excellent site and first port of call for many getting their head round low carb.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lots of other websites for recipes out there too. Just use the term low carb or keto with whatever you fancy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also it’s very important to be able to check for yourself what’s happening so you can make the necessary adjustments day to day and meal by meal rather than wait 3, 6 or even 12 months and then have no idea what had what effect. It also helps keep an eye out that any meds are working appropriately not too much or too little. Getting a blood glucose meter is the only way to do this (no matter what contradictory advice you may have heard - it’s usually budget based rather than anything more scientific). Test before a meal and 2hrs later hoping for a rise of 2mmol or less. More and the carbs eaten were too many! Please ask if you want any guidance on this.</p><p></p><p></p><p>IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE ON DIABETIC MEDS (other than metformin): if you lower your carbs then any glucose lowering meds or insulin increasing meds may need to be adjusted accordingly to make sure you aren’t taking more than your new diet requires. It can cause a hypo if you have more gliclazide or insulin etc than your new carb intake requires. (This is not a concern for metformin on its own). Keep a very close eye on your numbers and do this with your dr’s knowledge so they can reduce medication accordingly. Please don’t be put off by an ill informed out dated rubbishing of low carb diets or being told you should eat carbs to match meds, it should be the other way around. Low carb is endorsed by the NHS and the ADA as an effective method of control, even if the practice staff don’t realise that yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HSSS, post: 2197310, member: 480869"] Hi. To answer your questions I wouldn’t rely on how you feel. Many on here, even some with very high numbers have no symptoms. Others get symptoms at low numbers. It’s not reliable. The only way to know is to test. At home on your own meter is best as it allows you to see what each meal is doing to your blood glucose levels and adjust the next similar meal if required. Get tested regularly at the drs in any case. Sadly you seem to have been caught by the same trap as most and gone for the low fat option. It is the carbohydrates in what you eat that make a difference to diabetes not the fat. And if you adjust those to suit your body then your weight should adjust accordingly. Think of a seesaw. Remove carbs and add fats and proteins instead. Yes I did say add fats. Most of us type 2 in here sort out our diabetes and loose excess weight whilst adding fats - so long as we reduce carbs. It might not mean adding a lot of fat. Maybe just ditching the low fat stuff and using normal stuff. It’s incredibly important to keep you feeling full and having energy. Low fat products tend to add sugars and chemicals instead. How many carbs you cut and how much fat you add is highly personal. So looking at what you ate. The bread, the oats, the banana especially but most fruits with the exception of berries, the crackers and the cider are all problematic. Dry wines or spirits with diet mixers are a better choice than beers or ciders. The eggs, the water, salads, plain yoghurt, (normal not low fat) cheese, meat and veg are all good as is the exercise Here’s a few links to get you started. Take them one at a time as it’s a lot of reading. Can I suggest you take a good look at LCHF ie low carb higher fat (than typically recommended) methods of eating (keto is just a version of this). It’s how an awful lot of us get our blood sugar levels under control and for some even eliminate medications and achieve remission and also reduce or improve complications. It is often the easiest and most sustainable form of weight loss for a type 2 if you need that. Other conditions often improve including but not limited to blood pressure, joint pain, inflammation, PCOS, and despite the dire warnings of the last few decades it improves cholesterol for most, yes improves cholesterol. Some jump right on it, others edge their toes in a bit at a time. Be aware the the USA count carbs differently so be aware if you look at their counting, recipes or products. They include fibre in their count we don’t. So if it’s USA stuff deduct the fibre to get our figures. (Fibre isn’t generally digested thus doesn’t get counted) Try clicking these links for more detailed explanations that are well worth readings. [URL]http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/basic-information-for-newly-diagnosed-diabetics.26870/[/URL] [URL]https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/[/URL] for info including low carb made simple And [URL]https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/[/URL] to show it really works and for motivation and [URL]https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/[/URL] for food ideas also [URL]https://www.dietdoctor.com/[/URL] for more food ideas and general info of carb content of foods. Excellent site and first port of call for many getting their head round low carb. Lots of other websites for recipes out there too. Just use the term low carb or keto with whatever you fancy. Also it’s very important to be able to check for yourself what’s happening so you can make the necessary adjustments day to day and meal by meal rather than wait 3, 6 or even 12 months and then have no idea what had what effect. It also helps keep an eye out that any meds are working appropriately not too much or too little. Getting a blood glucose meter is the only way to do this (no matter what contradictory advice you may have heard - it’s usually budget based rather than anything more scientific). Test before a meal and 2hrs later hoping for a rise of 2mmol or less. More and the carbs eaten were too many! Please ask if you want any guidance on this. IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE ON DIABETIC MEDS (other than metformin): if you lower your carbs then any glucose lowering meds or insulin increasing meds may need to be adjusted accordingly to make sure you aren’t taking more than your new diet requires. It can cause a hypo if you have more gliclazide or insulin etc than your new carb intake requires. (This is not a concern for metformin on its own). Keep a very close eye on your numbers and do this with your dr’s knowledge so they can reduce medication accordingly. Please don’t be put off by an ill informed out dated rubbishing of low carb diets or being told you should eat carbs to match meds, it should be the other way around. Low carb is endorsed by the NHS and the ADA as an effective method of control, even if the practice staff don’t realise that yet. [/QUOTE]
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