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DCUKMod said:
This thread is meandering off onto personal anecdotes for family members and so on, rather than addressing the OPs query, which is whether a DNR band is a common thing for people to wear.
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Please take note as was said in the above quote by staff member anything other than is it common to wear one or not is irrelevant and off topic.
 

I have never heard of a DNR wristband with Type 1 diabetes, nor would I ever want one. I have been on a ventilator but I obviously didn't know at the time and I survived, life is for living.
 

Both my parents were DNR, my mum had heart failure, in her late 70's and died in hospital and my dad had breathing problems and was in his 90's, last 2 years in a care home.
Both dr's informed me of their decision, because it is brutal and would probably kill them anyway.
 
kev-w said:
Referring to the op that I replied to so I stand by what I said.
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I agree with your opinion in that the OP implied that people may have A TYPE 1 (implying therefore) DNR which would be ridiculous but I suspect the 2 things were not linked.
Of course they are many good things about stating a preference to your loved ones and medical teams re how you might like to be treated or not.
For example did anyone see the elderly chap with covid on Hospital (BBC 2 Monday pm) who had a DNR notice, discussed with his family and medical team. Spoke very movingly on his attitude to death at age 84 ? (he didn't die of CoVid btw)
 
One of my relatives is a medic on an ambulance, did CPR on an elderly lady and there was a 'shouldn't have bothered' comment when they arrived, with the patient alive but with broken ribs - a few days later a hulking great fellow sought her out and was weeping on her shoulder as he hugged her with her feet off the ground - she's tiny - as he told her his mum was alright and coming home after being given a pacemaker. As she said - if it was your mum's time, I wouldn't have been in the ambulance. She's the great grand daughter of the one brought back, carrying on the family tradition of nursing - her sister went in for dancing and theatricals - ended up being a designated first aider on cruise ships, doing CPR and using a defibrillator from time to time, keeping people alive. Something in the DNA I suspect.
Yes, there is a time to allow nature to take its course, but giving up without a struggle is not going to happen on their watch.
 
Folks, there has already been one request for posts to stick to the topic of DNR bands rather than focus on personal anecdotes, but the thread is sliding off topic again.

Please ensure that any further contributions address the OP’s original question. Any new off topic posts will be deleted.
 
On the subject of this particular wristband, I very much doubt any doctor would authorise a legal DNR on the basis of T1 alone - they'd hopefully offer mental health support.
 
I do not think it is usual for people to wear this particular bracelet referring to T1 in that way. Most of the DNR bracelets available that I have seen do not reference any particular illness


 
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JohnEGreen said:
I do not think it is usual for people to wear this particular bracelet referring to T1 in that way. Most of the DNR bracelets available that I have seen do not reference any particular illness
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I have DNR right at the top of my medical info with the Quoll medic alert card I carry in a lanyard around my neck.

 
No people do not normally wear the wristbands.
No they would have no affect medically as they are not verifiable.
And as I tried to point out a DNR bracelet only needs to state do not resuscitate so it does not matter if you are type one or type two.

And btw welcome to the forum.
 
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Like @Tipetoo, I have an Advanced Health Directive and relevant Powers of Attorney/Guardianship under my state's law and have done so since I was given a terminal/progressive disease diagnosis in 2009. Since an exacerbation of my condition last year and being put on oxygen, I was even more concerned about resuscitation attempts against my will. I spoke to the local hospital where I would be taken if a bystander calls an ambulance and they were unsure of the procedure would be, but suggested I speak to our ambulance service.

I did so and was advised along similar lines to @LooperCat's advice above. Despite the introduction of an eHealth record by the Government, the ambulance service would not have access to that (seems pretty useless in that case, but typical of the shambles they made of the record's introduction imo). They would always check for a bracelet and after researching, I decided to go with MedicAlert - the bracelet has my unique member ID and a number to be called for details of my medical conditions, copy of my AHD, medications, etc. which I can update at any time. The reverse of the bracelet also has a summary with the AHD and DNR instruction specified. It's about the best that can be done in the current legal/health/technology environment. No 100% guarantee, but I've felt a lot safer from fruitless and invasive treatments in case of events outside my control.

I'd urge anyone saying they would want extreme measures in any medical intervention to really speak to medical professionals about it. Most don't want to go into a hospital at all 'in extremis' because they have first hand experience of what happens to people. The after-effects, especially in frail elderley, can be the stuff of nightmares. Was recently reading an account of what a young, previously hale and healthy individual went through to recover from just a short period of intubation, so can't imagine what it would be like for someone already ill, with co-morbidities, elderly, etc.
 
Dignity2020 said:
Hello - I heard of someone local who wears a wristband in case she develops Covid, which reads;Do not resuscitate: Diabetes Type 1. I am curious if they are a common thing to have, . . . . .
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My previous reply relied on my own experience with my father. Further digging has opened up a can of worms. To answer your question more directly I will quote the BMJ (Journal of Medical Ethics) "There is evidence to suggest that while many elderly favour resuscitation, they die with DNR orders in place." The whole document is found at https://jme.bmj.com/content/28/5/303 and worth reading because the process isn't straight forward.

Dignity2020 said:
. . . . . and if of any effect in subsequent treatment in hospital.
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It would seem that people with DNRs are still resuscitated.

Dignity2020 said:
I am type 2, so such a band would be wrong for me, although I am not keen on the ventillator option as described. Martin
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Depends on whether you want to live, I think most of us do.

I get the impression that it needs more than a wristband, it's a legal thing and needs looking into.
 
Hi Everyone,

This thread was started with a simple request for info around T1 DNR wristbands but very few posts have addressed that query.


Since people have not stayed on topic, this thread is now being closed.

Anyone is welcome to discuss death, resuscitation and the legalities around those things, but please start a new thread in order to do so.
 
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