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<blockquote data-quote="Mbaker" data-source="post: 2513275" data-attributes="member: 256617"><p>Societal norms now revolve around sugary treats. The days of bringing a hog roast or similar have been replaced by cake and biscuits. A previous "normal" is now the new accepted normal, and we all fall for it, because it tastes nice. If you compare and contrast the "normal" in an untouched society an indulgence might be honey (in season only); cross referencing their metabolic states with "ours" it is crystal clear what "normal" to our bodies looks like.</p><p></p><p>The 2 items beer and bread are grain based, which are just sugar molecules. People continually try to bring potatoes, pasta, bread back, when the real question is do they even work in a modern context for non-diagnosed "normal" population. The latest study we can take as a surrogate shows that 8 out of 10 Americans are not metabolically healthy, this is a wake up call that says almost everyone cannot take the sugar hit. I am in the camp that believes this is mainly due to the very foods being craved on the carbohydrate spectrum, especially when mixed with vegetable fats. My comments have assumed it is sugar (along with veg fat and grains) that is the main problem, happy to be proved otherwise.</p><p></p><p>So my point to you is look at what you are trying to bring back in for what it is, beer is liquid carbs, and bread is high glyceamic. The theories around what causes heart disease have just as valid hypothesis from the Keto / Carnivore commentators as those from the main stream. It should not be assumed that undiagnosed can and do tolerate carbs especially past their 30's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mbaker, post: 2513275, member: 256617"] Societal norms now revolve around sugary treats. The days of bringing a hog roast or similar have been replaced by cake and biscuits. A previous "normal" is now the new accepted normal, and we all fall for it, because it tastes nice. If you compare and contrast the "normal" in an untouched society an indulgence might be honey (in season only); cross referencing their metabolic states with "ours" it is crystal clear what "normal" to our bodies looks like. The 2 items beer and bread are grain based, which are just sugar molecules. People continually try to bring potatoes, pasta, bread back, when the real question is do they even work in a modern context for non-diagnosed "normal" population. The latest study we can take as a surrogate shows that 8 out of 10 Americans are not metabolically healthy, this is a wake up call that says almost everyone cannot take the sugar hit. I am in the camp that believes this is mainly due to the very foods being craved on the carbohydrate spectrum, especially when mixed with vegetable fats. My comments have assumed it is sugar (along with veg fat and grains) that is the main problem, happy to be proved otherwise. So my point to you is look at what you are trying to bring back in for what it is, beer is liquid carbs, and bread is high glyceamic. The theories around what causes heart disease have just as valid hypothesis from the Keto / Carnivore commentators as those from the main stream. It should not be assumed that undiagnosed can and do tolerate carbs especially past their 30's. [/QUOTE]
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