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<blockquote data-quote="Spiker" data-source="post: 522291" data-attributes="member: 102150"><p>It's a good idea. Returning to the Prof Taylor studies / Newcastle Diet, I suspect that the people on that diet would score 'normal' on an OGTT. The reason being that IF Taylor is correct about the etiology, once T2 is reversed by radical caloric restriction the only remaining organic condition is a slight insulin resistance in the muscle tissue. The dominant insulin resistance and impaired beta cell function originating in hepatic fat is gone. He didn't do the OGTT and he might be wrong, but it would be a very interesting test.</p><p></p><p>If they 'passed' the OGTT you then want to move the goalposts and say "if the cured person ate pie and chips for a year would T2 come back?". Hope you would not! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I think that would be unfair and meaningless. If T2 can be eliminated and kept at bay, it's splitting hairs not to call that cured. The Taylor argument is that T2 has a reversible causation. If you remove the causation it goes away. If you repeat the causation it comes back. Saying that's not a cure would be like saying my broken arm isn't cured because if I put it under a bus, it will break again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spiker, post: 522291, member: 102150"] It's a good idea. Returning to the Prof Taylor studies / Newcastle Diet, I suspect that the people on that diet would score 'normal' on an OGTT. The reason being that IF Taylor is correct about the etiology, once T2 is reversed by radical caloric restriction the only remaining organic condition is a slight insulin resistance in the muscle tissue. The dominant insulin resistance and impaired beta cell function originating in hepatic fat is gone. He didn't do the OGTT and he might be wrong, but it would be a very interesting test. If they 'passed' the OGTT you then want to move the goalposts and say "if the cured person ate pie and chips for a year would T2 come back?". Hope you would not! :) I think that would be unfair and meaningless. If T2 can be eliminated and kept at bay, it's splitting hairs not to call that cured. The Taylor argument is that T2 has a reversible causation. If you remove the causation it goes away. If you repeat the causation it comes back. Saying that's not a cure would be like saying my broken arm isn't cured because if I put it under a bus, it will break again. [/QUOTE]
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