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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 1657425" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>This thread is entitled Reversing Type 2 Diabetes. Therefore anyone offering a solution which they lay claim to being a cure for T2D has to be properly discussed, and the evidence they use to support their claim has to be held up to the light of independant review and discourse. I follow an LC diet that works for me, and I have often provided evidence and research that supports the claim that it assists reducing T2D.</p><p></p><p>The same cannot be said of those that propose WFPB or a grain based plant based vegan diet as a means of curing T2D, Did AliB provide any personal journey evidence, or link to any scientific research that could give credence to their glossy video presentations or validate what their guru is claiming.? Did any of the other WFPB supporters who have posted on this forum in the last year done so? I have been stunned by the silence that follows my simple requests for corroborating data, Instead we get pushed from Vlog to Vlog to book to book to je ne sais quoi.</p><p></p><p>As an ex multilevel marketer (MLM) I realise the power of a good video presentation to fool the masses. We have a duty of care to do our best to make sure this site is not used to promote false claims, expecially if these could be harmful to health rather than just pecuniary loss. When these followers of Greger, Bernstein et al bother to engage in proper discussion as to why a high carb plant based, grain based diet is better at controlling sugar levels for T2D, then I welcome the challenge.</p><p></p><p>One last word on this. It has recently been announced that the Vegan Society has entered a formal partnership with either DUK or PHE to actively promote the whole plant grain based diet for all. and this is of concern to all who reject the Eatwell Plate diet. Already ADA has opened the door to WFPB as being suitable for diabetics. WHERE is the Evidence?</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.vegansociety.com/society/whos-involved/partners/british-dietetic-association" target="_blank">https://www.vegansociety.com/society/whos-involved/partners/british-dietetic-association</a></p><p></p><p>Add: this is what I gleaned from Forks over Knives as a strict guide to what a WFPB diet allows etc</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 1657425, member: 196898"] This thread is entitled Reversing Type 2 Diabetes. Therefore anyone offering a solution which they lay claim to being a cure for T2D has to be properly discussed, and the evidence they use to support their claim has to be held up to the light of independant review and discourse. I follow an LC diet that works for me, and I have often provided evidence and research that supports the claim that it assists reducing T2D. The same cannot be said of those that propose WFPB or a grain based plant based vegan diet as a means of curing T2D, Did AliB provide any personal journey evidence, or link to any scientific research that could give credence to their glossy video presentations or validate what their guru is claiming.? Did any of the other WFPB supporters who have posted on this forum in the last year done so? I have been stunned by the silence that follows my simple requests for corroborating data, Instead we get pushed from Vlog to Vlog to book to book to je ne sais quoi. As an ex multilevel marketer (MLM) I realise the power of a good video presentation to fool the masses. We have a duty of care to do our best to make sure this site is not used to promote false claims, expecially if these could be harmful to health rather than just pecuniary loss. When these followers of Greger, Bernstein et al bother to engage in proper discussion as to why a high carb plant based, grain based diet is better at controlling sugar levels for T2D, then I welcome the challenge. One last word on this. It has recently been announced that the Vegan Society has entered a formal partnership with either DUK or PHE to actively promote the whole plant grain based diet for all. and this is of concern to all who reject the Eatwell Plate diet. Already ADA has opened the door to WFPB as being suitable for diabetics. WHERE is the Evidence? [URL]https://www.vegansociety.com/society/whos-involved/partners/british-dietetic-association[/URL] Add: this is what I gleaned from Forks over Knives as a strict guide to what a WFPB diet allows etc [/QUOTE]
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