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<blockquote data-quote="Neohdiver" data-source="post: 1107244" data-attributes="member: 258692"><p>Actually, some of the current claims are to at least remission (a better outcome than management), if not cure.</p><p></p><p>Those in the Newcastle study returned to normal eating, albeit at a level which maintained the weight at which they went into remission. But they were not carb restricted - all they have to do to stay in remission is to eat a balanced diet in quantities that sustains (rather than grows) their weight. This remission has lasted at least 11 years in one patient who is not managing it beyond maintaining a normal weight.</p><p></p><p>I'm not certain about those claiming to be in remission following Dr. Fung's fasting protocol. He has chosen to keep the details proprietary (i.e. he charges a hefty fee, with a wait list of longer than a year to start, and has chosen not to do a peer-reviewed study so there is no solid information about either protocol, or post-remission care. He does some form of intermittent fasting to put the disease into remission - but it is not clear whether they eat normally after that.</p><p></p><p>The Newcastle study group, at least, contrasts to LCHF - which is disease management without medication. My disease is managed at the moment. Unlike the Newcastle participants (and possibly unlike the intermittent fasting cures), if I stop the intensive management, my blood glucose is instantly back to where it was before.</p><p></p><p>As far as insulin, both individuals claiming cures have patients at least in remission who started on very high doses of insulin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neohdiver, post: 1107244, member: 258692"] Actually, some of the current claims are to at least remission (a better outcome than management), if not cure. Those in the Newcastle study returned to normal eating, albeit at a level which maintained the weight at which they went into remission. But they were not carb restricted - all they have to do to stay in remission is to eat a balanced diet in quantities that sustains (rather than grows) their weight. This remission has lasted at least 11 years in one patient who is not managing it beyond maintaining a normal weight. I'm not certain about those claiming to be in remission following Dr. Fung's fasting protocol. He has chosen to keep the details proprietary (i.e. he charges a hefty fee, with a wait list of longer than a year to start, and has chosen not to do a peer-reviewed study so there is no solid information about either protocol, or post-remission care. He does some form of intermittent fasting to put the disease into remission - but it is not clear whether they eat normally after that. The Newcastle study group, at least, contrasts to LCHF - which is disease management without medication. My disease is managed at the moment. Unlike the Newcastle participants (and possibly unlike the intermittent fasting cures), if I stop the intensive management, my blood glucose is instantly back to where it was before. As far as insulin, both individuals claiming cures have patients at least in remission who started on very high doses of insulin. [/QUOTE]
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