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This tied in with a discussion going on in another thread, but which hijacked it away from the vegetarian topics, so I am making it a general observation for all to chew on.
Barmy I can deal with, Batty is a flight of fancy too far.So, I rang Sainsburys. They said I could have a trial of their crickets, or 'test' as they called it.
I could have six deliveries, then it would be over.
My supply would last up to five days.
As a side effect I might end up with long legs.
I asked if all their crickets had short legs. They said that was a silly point.
Apparently all deliveries may contain bat. If true, I think I'll have to boycott their stores
Geoff (not Boycott)
Slime and algae much easier to cultivate industrially but low in protein methinks. Maybe feed the inverts with algae to reduce costs, and get a biofuel with the leftovers?In theory switching from traditional animal products to insects is great for the environment and is a source of protein that's great for the poor. However, the cost and manufacture of putting the infrastructure in place to breed the quantities of inverts to western health and hygiene standards will be eyewatering. The cost to consumers will be massively disproportionate to those in Asia. A 2p per litre rise in fuel duty somehow equates to 13p on every cucumber so imagine how the producers would recoup their initial investments if they had to revolutionise the farming sector.
When being bred as feeders for birds or reptiles they are generally bred between layers of card/other cheap dry and layered material. Their water comes from their food which is generally veg or small amounts of fruit matter. The trouble on the scale we're talking about is ensuring that they don't start consuming rotting material before it's spotted and switched out. Then there's splitting them from their waste. There'll no doubt be an acceptable invert to waste ratio decided that we'd rather not know about. The exoskeleton means that it would be next to impossible to tell that the flesh is rotten so they would either need to be sold live or else freshly killed to order or dried which means we'll be being fed human kibbles or using them as protein powders in otherwise vegetarian meals.A thought has struck me on the question of mass production which may be daft but let's see...
Farmed salmon tend to need treating with antibiotics because they're kept in unaturally close quarters.
What would farmed crickets end up being fed on? Some commercially produced feed, no doubt.
Whatever the answer, I hate BBQ flavour so I'll pass!
Edit to clarify.
What is known about the risks of keeping millions of one (or multiple) species in close confinement?
When being bred as feeders for birds or reptiles they are generally bred between layers of card/other cheap dry and layered material. Their water comes from their food which is generally veg or small amounts of fruit matter. The trouble on the scale we're talking about is ensuring that they don't start consuming rotting material before it's spotted and switched out. Then there's splitting them from their waste. There'll no doubt be an acceptable invert to waste ratio decided that we'd rather not know about. The exoskeleton means that it would be next to impossible to tell that the flesh is rotten so they would either need to be sold live or else freshly killed to order or dried which means we'll be being fed human kibbles or using them as protein powders in otherwise vegetarian meals.
I'm an adventurous person and I'll try them out of curiosity, but I for one am glad that this will probably be an other generation's burden.
Not massively different to a bony fish, to my eye. I did try squirrel back in my meat eating days, had a horrible, musky flavour - basically like how you’d expect a rat to taste. And that was in a vindaloo sauce... too forever to get the meat off the bones too.View attachment 29605
Paniki prepared with fruit bat meat cooked in spicy rica green chili pepper. An exotic Manado (Minahasan) dish. Manado, North Sulawesi, Indonesia.
Looks really appetizing doesn't it
The Smokey BBQ Crickets are 51.8% carbohydrate. In a 9gm bag not such a problem. I'm still not tempted, I'm told that bits of wing get stuck between your teeth.all to chew on.
View attachment 29605
Paniki prepared with fruit bat meat cooked in spicy rica green chili pepper. An exotic Manado (Minahasan) dish. Manado, North Sulawesi, Indonesia.
Looks really appetizing doesn't it
I’d have to insulinate for that. I imagine in a bbq marinade that’s 4.5g pure sugar, and I only take 3-6g for a hypo.The Smokey BBQ Crickets are 51.8% carbohydrate. In a 9gm bag not such a problem. I'm still not tempted, I'm told that bits of wing get stuck between your teeth.
I’d have to insulinate for that. I imagine in a bbq marinade that’s 4.5g pure sugar, and I only take 3-6g for a hypo.
The fruit bats that live around the Bundaberg area, are a sweet meat I have been told.Paniki prepared with fruit bat meat cooked in spicy rica green chili pepper.
The bats that fly in the UK are a protected species and not for consumption.The fruit bats that live around the Bundaberg area, are a sweet meat I have been told.
They are protected here as well, as all Australian fauna is, they completely destroy orchards if they are not fully netted correctly.The bats that fly in the UK are a protected species and not for consumption.
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