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<blockquote data-quote="UK T1" data-source="post: 2269668" data-attributes="member: 503751"><p>Sorry I haven't been on for a little while. I believe it has been posted various times across this forum but here are the latest, and largest ranging studies which has been released about diabetes and Covid-19: <a href="https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/type-1-and-type-2-diabetes-and-covid-19-related-mortality-in-england/" target="_blank">https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/type-1-and-type-2-diabetes-and-covid-19-related-mortality-in-england/</a></p><p>The 3.5x was from the first paper. There are numerous threads that discuss these papers (including limitations). It is important not to let the numbers alarm you, and I agree with what Brunneria said above. In terms of gathering data, here are some of my thoughts. Firstly, there needs to have been a test to confirm the patient actually has CV, so lots of studies so far are only talking about hospital admissions as these were the only places testing for a long time. It then depends on the patient's records being complete, as Brunneria says. It also depends on the numbers. In these papers there are lots of categories where the patient numbers are so low they have had to put categories together.</p><p></p><p>My point is that it is important to differentiate between what we think might be the case (so also what researchers and medical professionals are predicting but don't yet have the data to support), and what the data <strong>so far</strong> shows us. I have heard lots of people saying things along the lines of 'why aren't the experts advising us ...x y and z' which in my opinion is only answered by reminding them that the data so far is quite limited. We can make educated guesses about risk factors, but if the data hasn't been recorded in enough detail, 'experts' can't easily recommend what we think might be the most sensible course of action anyway.</p><p></p><p>I hope my ramblings make sense. I will again remind anyone who is worried about getting a shielding letter that they don't *have* to follow the advice - it isn't a prison sentence! In my case it just means I can continue to work from home, which I have been doing the whole time anyway. It has been a huge relief to receive it, eventhough I appreciate I have so far got a lot of the stats on my side.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UK T1, post: 2269668, member: 503751"] Sorry I haven't been on for a little while. I believe it has been posted various times across this forum but here are the latest, and largest ranging studies which has been released about diabetes and Covid-19: [URL]https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/type-1-and-type-2-diabetes-and-covid-19-related-mortality-in-england/[/URL] The 3.5x was from the first paper. There are numerous threads that discuss these papers (including limitations). It is important not to let the numbers alarm you, and I agree with what Brunneria said above. In terms of gathering data, here are some of my thoughts. Firstly, there needs to have been a test to confirm the patient actually has CV, so lots of studies so far are only talking about hospital admissions as these were the only places testing for a long time. It then depends on the patient's records being complete, as Brunneria says. It also depends on the numbers. In these papers there are lots of categories where the patient numbers are so low they have had to put categories together. My point is that it is important to differentiate between what we think might be the case (so also what researchers and medical professionals are predicting but don't yet have the data to support), and what the data [B]so far[/B] shows us. I have heard lots of people saying things along the lines of 'why aren't the experts advising us ...x y and z' which in my opinion is only answered by reminding them that the data so far is quite limited. We can make educated guesses about risk factors, but if the data hasn't been recorded in enough detail, 'experts' can't easily recommend what we think might be the most sensible course of action anyway. I hope my ramblings make sense. I will again remind anyone who is worried about getting a shielding letter that they don't *have* to follow the advice - it isn't a prison sentence! In my case it just means I can continue to work from home, which I have been doing the whole time anyway. It has been a huge relief to receive it, eventhough I appreciate I have so far got a lot of the stats on my side. [/QUOTE]
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