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<blockquote data-quote="Hoping4Cure" data-source="post: 1451516" data-attributes="member: 393050"><p>High carb diets : Just say no! It's like a poison to diabetics, making IR worse. (or spiking insulin requirements, same end result)</p><p></p><p>Anyone or any diet recommending one eats potatos, pasta, and bread for diabetics should be summarily ignored, IMO. And possibly even called out as ignorant and/or dangerous. </p><p></p><p>If you eat a super low fat vegan diet which is high in fiber and low in GI and overall calories, you can apparently do quite well, but personally I know a lot of vegans who are overweight and the proof is in the pudding (and they're smug and condescending about it too, which makes it all the more irritating. Ask them what causes insulin resistance and see if they respond something inane like too much animal fat. Beep! <strong>wrong</strong>). </p><p></p><p>It's easy to overeat by thinking if the ingredients are healthy so they don't need to worry about portion control. This is a huge mistake, because vegans have way too high a carb / fat ratio in their diet to eat any substantial amount of calories per day to be considered a sound choice for diabetes.</p><p></p><p>Veganism, unless it's very low calorie, spikes carbs due to it being naturally quite low fat and high carb. Although, of course it depends on what types of foods are eaten. Legumes, avocados, beans, all these are good for diabetics but if they're supplemented with bread (even whole wheat), rice, pasta, it's a losing formula. It's just pouring fuel on the fire.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hoping4Cure, post: 1451516, member: 393050"] High carb diets : Just say no! It's like a poison to diabetics, making IR worse. (or spiking insulin requirements, same end result) Anyone or any diet recommending one eats potatos, pasta, and bread for diabetics should be summarily ignored, IMO. And possibly even called out as ignorant and/or dangerous. If you eat a super low fat vegan diet which is high in fiber and low in GI and overall calories, you can apparently do quite well, but personally I know a lot of vegans who are overweight and the proof is in the pudding (and they're smug and condescending about it too, which makes it all the more irritating. Ask them what causes insulin resistance and see if they respond something inane like too much animal fat. Beep! [B]wrong[/B]). It's easy to overeat by thinking if the ingredients are healthy so they don't need to worry about portion control. This is a huge mistake, because vegans have way too high a carb / fat ratio in their diet to eat any substantial amount of calories per day to be considered a sound choice for diabetes. Veganism, unless it's very low calorie, spikes carbs due to it being naturally quite low fat and high carb. Although, of course it depends on what types of foods are eaten. Legumes, avocados, beans, all these are good for diabetics but if they're supplemented with bread (even whole wheat), rice, pasta, it's a losing formula. It's just pouring fuel on the fire. [/QUOTE]
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