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<blockquote data-quote="Russ" data-source="post: 138563" data-attributes="member: 47"><p>We couldn't tell that you were only the messenger from your post, Ken - it certainly appeared that you were making the claim because it wasn't apparent from the link that there was such a notion that smoking may cause glucose intolerance not without digging a lot deeper. In any event I think there is a danger of us innocently repeating the follies of some tabloids where the full survey details (demographics etc.) and background are not provided thus enabling us to make informed opinions that are relevant to our own circumstances.</p><p></p><p>I found the item you refer to and confess to being slightly befuddled by the complexity of the survey. I have spoken to a health professional attached to the site you gave the link to - a former diabetic nurse. She thought the notion was quite obscure and felt that it (the BMJ article) should be taken with a pinch of salt. The survey only refers to young adults of 18-30 and the health professional I spoke to says that the majority of them are likely to have been pre-disposed to diabetes in that their lifestyle will probably not have been particularly healthy in the first place. The survey doesn't explain the difference between T1 and T2 and that T1 is a relatively sudden pancreatic breakdown more associated with younger sufferers rather than the slow onset of glucose intolerance that comes with T2 and older sufferers, so there's a mis-match there. She didn't think the BMJ article was a helpful. Most of us know that statistics can prove almost anything and in this case I think those given in this survey are misleading, especially by what it doesn't say.</p><p></p><p>If anyone would like to speak to the health professional about this they can do by phoning the 0800 number on your link, Ken and ask to be put through to a health professional. The initials of the one in this instance are RH.</p><p></p><p>Good luck</p><p></p><p>Russ</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Russ, post: 138563, member: 47"] We couldn't tell that you were only the messenger from your post, Ken - it certainly appeared that you were making the claim because it wasn't apparent from the link that there was such a notion that smoking may cause glucose intolerance not without digging a lot deeper. In any event I think there is a danger of us innocently repeating the follies of some tabloids where the full survey details (demographics etc.) and background are not provided thus enabling us to make informed opinions that are relevant to our own circumstances. I found the item you refer to and confess to being slightly befuddled by the complexity of the survey. I have spoken to a health professional attached to the site you gave the link to - a former diabetic nurse. She thought the notion was quite obscure and felt that it (the BMJ article) should be taken with a pinch of salt. The survey only refers to young adults of 18-30 and the health professional I spoke to says that the majority of them are likely to have been pre-disposed to diabetes in that their lifestyle will probably not have been particularly healthy in the first place. The survey doesn't explain the difference between T1 and T2 and that T1 is a relatively sudden pancreatic breakdown more associated with younger sufferers rather than the slow onset of glucose intolerance that comes with T2 and older sufferers, so there's a mis-match there. She didn't think the BMJ article was a helpful. Most of us know that statistics can prove almost anything and in this case I think those given in this survey are misleading, especially by what it doesn't say. If anyone would like to speak to the health professional about this they can do by phoning the 0800 number on your link, Ken and ask to be put through to a health professional. The initials of the one in this instance are RH. Good luck Russ [/QUOTE]
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