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Solution for diabetes in sport?

przemmaj

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Hi All!

I'm looking for active/in sport diabetics using maybe any wristbands (Jawbone, Nike, Fitbit) as I'm the one. I started small research project about active diabetics and I'm looking for people willing to talk about the problems more. Short brief what I'm trying to do below. If anybody is interested and keen to talk/share opinions/feedback - please get back in touch

Diabetes Lab is an initiative that is going to tackle the problem of control of diabetes type 1. We want to build 'Siri for diabetics'. We want to start from proposing our first feature to active people. The proposed feature is data focused. We rely on the input data such as glucose levels, types of insulin, insulin doses and physical activity of the user. Proposed output is real-time information about insulin dose adjustment, which would let the user keep glucose level in a good range. Described feature relies a lot on the input data, that is why we focus not only on the data provided by the user by hand, but also on the data received from external sensors such as wristbands (Jawbone UP, Fitbit, Nike), continuous glucose monitoring devices, insulin pumps and mobile devices (accelerometers, GPS).

Thanks !
Przemek
 
Hey!
Nice idea. Be aware that insulin adjustments need to be made on variety of different factors, not only physical activity.
 
yes I'm aware, that why I want to understand the problem more - I'm thinking about other factors as well and to make it personal, adjustable to the user... Looking for help to talk with more people and figure out if and what in deep problem we all are facing...
 
In my opinion, this would need to be a learning system, capable of starting from a generalised set of parameters for dose management and reduction, but then taking into account over time the specifics of how an individual reacts, to make a specifci solution.

I have carried out extensive personal research and experimentation into thsi problem using myself as a sampel of one. Starting from various sources of guidance, none of which are the solution, but finding an iterative approach required. In my case I know that I becoem extemely insulin sensitive when exercising and that I need to make much larger reductions than would be suggested.
 
Hi ElyDave !!!

Thanks a lot for this valuable opinion. I see you are a kind of expert in the field and as a matter of fact as you have written it should be a learning system. We have a data scientists/ai experts on board and we are thinking extensively about this solution. Will you be able to have direct conversation on this?

Hope to hear soon,
 
At some point possibly yes, but you would be foruth in the queue I'm afraid.
Ahead of you I have an article to write on how I manage T1 with running adn how they interact, a race and another publicity interview to do as well.
 
Hi there,

Hi there,
Please could you contact Team Blood Glucose - it may be something we can work with you on.
http://www.teambloodglucose.com/TeamBG/Contact.html
 
ElyDave said:
At some point possibly yes, but you would be foruth in the queue I'm afraid.
Ahead of you I have an article to write on how I manage T1 with running adn how they interact, a race and another publicity interview to do as well.
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Thanks, I'll wait - if you can just drop a note when it will suits you.
 
ElyDave said:
you and I should probabaly talk at some point as well
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Hi there ElyDave,
Would love to have a chat anytime. If you would like to make contact through TeamBG that would be great.
Keep up the excellent work - you're an inspiration to us all and a fountain of knowledge.
 
This sounds great... Being type 1 myself I do tend to use lots of devices to try and track my training progress but do tend to struggle with the doses sometimes. I use Jawbone UP. Polar FT80 and runkeeper on my phone for the GPS. also use an insulin pump and blood meter handset that connects via Bluetooth (accu-chek).

Would be great to see how this pans out!!


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Can we chat on this real time?
 

I am a type 1 diabetic using an insulin pump. I'm cycling 450km over 6 days in Sardinia from 9th to 14th July which includes a few big climbs! If I can help I would be more than happy to be a guinnea pig.

Regards

Mark


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Wow some of you guys seem all space age. I generally just take glucose tablets with me when out running in case I feel a crash. If I'm too high, well I just try and run further to bring it down.

Generally speaking it's pretty difficult to keep stable blood sugar levels when you have an active lifestyle and erratic timetable.. I find myself eating too much sugary and carby **** to compensate for the exercise. So bloods are up and down. It doesn't help that I'm on 80/20 mix (single insulin). It was suggested to me a couple of years back that I should change to the basal bolus (long and short insulin regime) - but I kind of got wary about the link between that and cancer.
 
No link has ever been suggested between basal bolus and cancer? There was a link investigated between one of the basal insulins (glargine) and cancer, but no evidence has yet been found, and US and European authorities state it is safe. But if you are worried you could use degludec or detemir basal insulin.

By the way did you know that strength athletes perform just as well on low carb diets, and endurance athletes perform significantly better?
 
based on my experience, that's a cop out.

It takes work, it takes attention to detail but good control with an active lifestyle is definitely possible

I would have thought that basal/bolus is the way to go though either through MDI or pump. It all depends what value you put on the improved control in addition to the exercise. You need to be able to manipulate dosages effectively

Also remember that the carby **** during exercise, if you get it right is not contributing to blood sugar rise.
 

Hi MrGreen,

I agree with you that generally speaking it can be pretty difficult to keep stable blood sugar levels, whilst exercising - initially at least. Thankfully though it is becoming easier (with some patience, effort and education) to manage potential blood glucose lows and any highs that come as a result.

There are some basics to learn, after which it is a case of finding your own body's carb loading requirements for the exercise you are doing. Get that right, and you can run for miles, cycle for miles - pretty much do any activity and keep your blood glucose levels within a safe range without suffering yo-yoing bloods. I'm sure you already appreciate the benefits of exercise - which is why it's important to persevere.
I can't comment on your short/long insulin regime - I haven't heard any evidence for a link with cancer.

It must feel frustrating not to be able to get 'active' without being in control of your blood glucose levels. If you would like to learn more about doing this without suffering fluctuating blood glucose levels, then there are a couple of places I would recommend that you look:
http://www.teambloodglucose.com/TeamBG/Type_1_Basics.html (also watch the type 1 case study movie - bit long but worth sitting through)
http://runsweet.com/DietAndNutrition.html (look at the table for general fuelling advice)

With regard to glucose tabs - ewwww! Bit nasty (though they do the job). Why not try something else? TeamBG recommend torq product, but why not experiment to see what works best for you?
Hope you feel encouraged to give it another go - I would love to hear what progress you make.
 
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