TomGreen101
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- Type of diabetes
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Funny but not funny. I don't give a lot of credence to CHO as the recommendations keep changing. I focus more on the ratios but who knows about that either. When my total was 300, my HDL was 93 and ratios all ideal. 300 still freaked me out. Now it is being said a tad higher CHO is heart protective. Go figure....When I asked to go on insulin, my Doctors had me do a 2 day stress test and found the blockages was below 1 and I still got clogger arteries. Had a quintuplett bypass and my triglgicerides etc were perfect.
While waiting for the surgury I read my latest blood tests and had to laugh. It indicated low risk of aterial problems.
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Funny but not funny. I don't give a lot of credence to CHO as the recommendations keep changing. I focus more on the ratios but who knows about that either. When my total was 300, my HDL was 93 and ratios all ideal. 300 still freaked me out. Now it is being said a tad higher CHO is heart protective. Go figure....
I just try to eat a high quality varied diet and not a ton of food. Though I love food and love to eat I need far less than I thought. And actually feel better for it.
Hope you are fully recovered! What's your stance on saturated fat?
Hi all... just come from seeing my diabetic nurse and well all I can say is I'm baffled. She told me I can eat carbs in moderation and don't do high fat products like cheese etc I said I'm on a lchf diet and she said what's that going to do to my arteries....
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Hi, I find all this very confusing. I got referred to Slimming world in Dec 2014 and still attend. I've never been asked to test my blood glucose but last week's hba1c was 48 which the nurse seemed happy about. I've been told to have carbs at each meal, so have portions of wholewheat pasta, rice etc and maybe a jacket potato. Hardly any fat, and have fat free yogurts etc. But keep seeing people talking about LCHF and feel confused?!?!
Yes, am thinking this is worth trying. My hba1c was 64 at diagnosis but 48 now. Tbh am off on holiday this week so will look into closer monitoring when back. Will try hard to reduce carbs, am a real fruit lover too but have smaller portions nowadays. The nurse I see is a diabetic specialist so it's weird they tell you wrong things.The advice you have been given is the NHS mantra (The Eatwell Plate) which is not generally suitable for type 2 diabetics. Most of us are given this advice on diagnosis, but it is wise not to accept it without first getting a meter and testing what it is doing to you. All carbs convert to glucose once inside the system, therefore it is logical not to eat them in any great quantity. Fats do not raise blood sugar levels. In fact they actually help.
We are also not advised to test, but this is blatantly poor advice. If we don't test we don't know which foods are causing the damage. I urge you to buy a meter, test before eating and a couple of hours after first bite. You will see a rise in levels. Too big a rise and that meal had too many carbs in it, meaning you have chance to reduce the portion size of those carbs or eliminate some of them from your diet.
Yes, am thinking this is worth trying. My hba1c was 64 at diagnosis but 48 now. Tbh am off on holiday this week so will look into closer monitoring when back. Will try hard to reduce carbs, am a real fruit lover too but have smaller portions nowadays. The nurse I see is a diabetic specialist so it's weird they tell you wrong things.
Hi all... just come from seeing my diabetic nurse and well all I can say is I'm baffled. She told me I can eat carbs in moderation and don't do high fat products like cheese etc I said I'm on a lchf diet and she said what's that going to do to my arteries.. I have been on your forum for days since I got diagnosed last week and had so much info about lchf and thought right I'm gonna give this ago.. this nurse was telling me to eat low fat yoghurt but they are full of sugar aaargh. My HBAC1 came back at 51 not 58 like I originally thought.. she said my cholesteral was 5 so I could do with statins. And the high fat will clog my arteries. I've just ordered my online shop for tomorrow and in it there's food like double cream and brie cheese and full fat mayo. She also said the reduced sugar baked beans are fine.. I've just looked and they are still high in sugar. Can anyone help me with all this ..thankyou xx
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HbA1c of 51 is not at all drastic, and with a suitable diet you will be able to get this right down by the time of your next test.
My advice is ignore your nurse. She is spouting the NHS advice about eating carbs with every meal and low fat. It is known as the Eatwell Plate, which is most likely fine for non-diabetics, but absolutely not fine for type 2s. . It isn't her fault, it is how she was trained. If she is a non-medicated type 2 then I bet either she doesn't follow her own advice or her HbA1c is double yours.
My nurse told me to eat jacket potatoes with baked beans for lunch.The majority of us, when diagnosed, were told the same as you. I tried the reduced sugar baked beans. They were just as bad as the normal ones.
Your meter will tell you who is right. Test before you eat and again 2 hours after first bite. Your levels should not be any more than 2mmol/l higher, preferably a lot less. Initially, many people also test at 1 hour, then 90 minutes, then 2hrs and if still high keep going to see how long it takes to get back to where you started. This is a good way to learn which foods are really bad for you personally. (recording your levels alongside a food diary).
Your cholesterol of 5 is perfect by the way, although on its own it means very little. You need to know the breakdown of HDL/LDL/Triglycerides and the total/HDL ratio. If you don't know these, ask for a print out of all your results. You will find these invaluable in time to come, and before you decide to take statins.
Some people find saturated fats don't help their cholesterol, but many of us are fine. It is normally carbs that cause the problems, not fats. My cholesterol went right down after I started LCHF and after over 2 and a half years continues to be good.
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