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<blockquote data-quote="Bluemarine Josephine" data-source="post: 1119863" data-attributes="member: 213188"><p>Good morning everyone! I hope you are all having a great day!</p><p>I love this thread! Thank you all so much for making it so interesting!</p><p></p><p>In relation to some of the foods mentioned above, like raw meat (carpaccio) or oysters, I am thinking that, when we are young, we have very a “childish” palate. The only thing we like is what tastes sweet.</p><p>It is only over the years that our palate refines and we learn to appreciate salt, sour and savory tastes. We learn (or become educated?) to love coffee, or spices like turmeric, Campari and gin, green tea, grapefruit…. (Brussels sprouts??).</p><p>It is only when we grow older that we move from milk chocolate to 99 per cent cocoa solids.</p><p></p><p>In addition to that, there are certain foods, like snails which they eat in France as a delicacy, or frog legs in Italy (grasshoppers in India…) which people, initially, saw as a solution during historically difficult years like wars or famines.</p><p>My guess would be that a Frenchman during WWII would prefer a juicy steak over a plate of boiled snails.(But, then again, with the French you never know...)</p><p></p><p>Having this in mind, my guess is that the foods or the tastes mentioned above are choices on the basis that food is an experience. I am not sure however if they are choices on the basis of a natural selection.</p><p></p><p>If I am interpreting Diamattic correctly (and I am not suggesting that he needs interpretation) being a carnivore is a matter of instinct and not a matter of taste. Having a nice, juicy fillet in a restaurant presented with all the haute cuisine shebang is completely different from going in an English park, chase and catch a squirrel, bite his neck to kill it and then eat the whole thing (eyes, brain, tongue, genitals.) So, unless I see one of us doing it, I will, still, have my doubts if we are “naturally” carnivorous by instinct.</p><p></p><p>My theory would be that if we give to a toddler a white, fluffy bunny and a pear, the chances are that the toddler will eat the pear and play with the bunny (and not vice versa).</p><p></p><p>I am not suggesting that “meat eaters” are bad people or that they are doing something wrong. I am only wondering if meat eating is a habit (that could potentially change if someone wished to change it) rather than an instinctive choice.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I must admit that I very much appreciate the ones who reply with honesty ‘Fifi darling, I understand all these nice things you are telling us but, I don’t want to change, I like my juicy steak, I am guilt free about it and I am too lazy to change.” I love honesty! I think it is great!</p><p></p><p>But, if someone tells to a vegeratian/vegan “Oh, God doesn’t approve veganism because it is not in the Bible” or “I am not wasting food because babies are hungry in the world” or whatever excuse of this kind then, there will always be someone with a counter-reply and, hopefully, this interesting thread could go on for years…</p><p></p><p>Keep posting your interesting thoughts please.</p><p>Have a great day! May your sugar levels be on fleek!!</p><p></p><p>Regards</p><p>Josephine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bluemarine Josephine, post: 1119863, member: 213188"] Good morning everyone! I hope you are all having a great day! I love this thread! Thank you all so much for making it so interesting! In relation to some of the foods mentioned above, like raw meat (carpaccio) or oysters, I am thinking that, when we are young, we have very a “childish” palate. The only thing we like is what tastes sweet. It is only over the years that our palate refines and we learn to appreciate salt, sour and savory tastes. We learn (or become educated?) to love coffee, or spices like turmeric, Campari and gin, green tea, grapefruit…. (Brussels sprouts??). It is only when we grow older that we move from milk chocolate to 99 per cent cocoa solids. In addition to that, there are certain foods, like snails which they eat in France as a delicacy, or frog legs in Italy (grasshoppers in India…) which people, initially, saw as a solution during historically difficult years like wars or famines. My guess would be that a Frenchman during WWII would prefer a juicy steak over a plate of boiled snails.(But, then again, with the French you never know...) Having this in mind, my guess is that the foods or the tastes mentioned above are choices on the basis that food is an experience. I am not sure however if they are choices on the basis of a natural selection. If I am interpreting Diamattic correctly (and I am not suggesting that he needs interpretation) being a carnivore is a matter of instinct and not a matter of taste. Having a nice, juicy fillet in a restaurant presented with all the haute cuisine shebang is completely different from going in an English park, chase and catch a squirrel, bite his neck to kill it and then eat the whole thing (eyes, brain, tongue, genitals.) So, unless I see one of us doing it, I will, still, have my doubts if we are “naturally” carnivorous by instinct. My theory would be that if we give to a toddler a white, fluffy bunny and a pear, the chances are that the toddler will eat the pear and play with the bunny (and not vice versa). I am not suggesting that “meat eaters” are bad people or that they are doing something wrong. I am only wondering if meat eating is a habit (that could potentially change if someone wished to change it) rather than an instinctive choice. Having said that, I must admit that I very much appreciate the ones who reply with honesty ‘Fifi darling, I understand all these nice things you are telling us but, I don’t want to change, I like my juicy steak, I am guilt free about it and I am too lazy to change.” I love honesty! I think it is great! But, if someone tells to a vegeratian/vegan “Oh, God doesn’t approve veganism because it is not in the Bible” or “I am not wasting food because babies are hungry in the world” or whatever excuse of this kind then, there will always be someone with a counter-reply and, hopefully, this interesting thread could go on for years… Keep posting your interesting thoughts please. Have a great day! May your sugar levels be on fleek!! Regards Josephine. [/QUOTE]
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