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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Winnie53" data-source="post: 2077628" data-attributes="member: 160246">Thanks Diakat. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Bulkbiker, yes, I've looked at everything I can by Dr. Fung, but he's silent on use of animal protein for patients with chronic kidney disease. And I am aware of Dr. Berry and DocMuscles using the keto diet with animal protein for their CKD patients but stage 4 gets dicey. This is not well known, but CKD patients have been treated successfully with plant based protein supplements for decades. They work, but are very expensive.Any further direction you can be provided would be most appreciated. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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