Hello Ian and a warm welcome from me
Yes, 19.6 is high but not dangerously so at the moment. You do, however, need to get it down.
Diet is the key, and you will have to find a suitable and sustainable diet based on reduced carbs.
Carbs convert to glucose once in the system, and glucose is just what we don't want in our blood stream. Therefore we don't want carbs.
Carbs = sugar.
By how much you reduce them is up to you, but the more you reduce, the better your readings will be. In order to replace the energy lost by reducing carbs you will need to increase your fats and/or protein.
Test immediately before a meal then again 2 hours after your first bite. You should aim to keep the rise down to below 2mmol/l (preferably a lot less) If it goes above this there are too many carbs in that meal and you need to reduce the portion sizes or avoid completely. Rice, pasta, cereals, potatoes, bread and anything made with flour are the worst culprits. We also need to be careful with milk and fruit as they are full of sugar. Keep a food diary including portion sizes and record you levels alongside. This will help you learn which foods your body can tolerate and which it can't.
Have a look at this thread which you may find useful http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/
and @daisy1 will be along soon with some advice for new members.
Have a good read round and come back with any questions. Good luck.
Hi 19.6 is a high reading. A lot of us here have found that eating less carbs and having full, as opposed to low, fat products has lowered our BS readings. Has your BS risen since starting the statins as I found that these pushed my BS up when I was taking them (I no longer take them due to other side effects).
Your low sugar cereals will still be full of carbs - have a look at the total carbohydrate amount in the nutrition label on the box. More than 5g per 100g put it back on the shelf. It isn't just the sugar content of food, it is the total carb content that matters. It doesn't matter what colour your pasta/bread/rice is, it will still convert to glucose. It just takes a bit longer for wholemeal to digest. Skimmed and semi skimmed milk has more sugar than whole milk - it is added to make it taste nicer. Please have a good read of that link.
But ... if you are still unsure, test your normal meals and be prepared for a shock!
@ianwas
Hello Ian and welcome to the forum
You have received some good information from the members, if there is something else you want to know just ask more questions. Dog walking is fabulous exercise and both of you benefit. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- whole2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Good morning and thank you for the welcome.
I'm grateful for any advice, even though I'm not really 'newly diagnosed', over a year non medication, but diet control (failed).
I read the link last night, very useful. I also didn't take the Atorvastatin tablet last night. I took my glucose reading earlier this morning before eating or taking the Metformin and the reading was 9.7, which compared to yesterday mornings reading of 16.6 (not 19.6, my mistake) seems better but a long way to go! Have since taken Metformin and had some rye crisp breads and tea. Will take another reading later.
Thanks again,
Ian.
Hello again,
Just an up-date. Since earlier this morning I've had no chance to eat or drink but I took readings a short time ago prior to eating & taking my 2nd tablet. This reading was 7.1, some two points lower than this morning so I imagine it's lower because of the Metformin I'd taken after my first reading today? I'll not take the statin again tonight & monitor levels for another day & then re-take the statin to make a comparison (before & after so's to speak).
Cheers
It is recognised that statins can cause diabetes. I had got my levels down to 5.4 from a diagnosis level of 6.8 when I was prescribed statins and my BS rose to 7.2. I stopped taking them due to other side effects and my last hba1c in December was 42 and my cholesterol was down to 4.2.Hi,
Many thanks for your reply. You may have a point about the statins as my reading prior to being prescribed them was around 9/10 and hence why the GP put me on the medications, although my cholesterol level isn't that high, which the GP told me. I may just stop taking the statin and then test to see what, if any difference that makes.
Ian.
It is recognised that statins can cause diabetes. I had got my levels down to 5.4 from a diagnosis level of 6.8 when I was prescribed statins and my BS rose to 7.2. I stopped taking them due to other side effects and my last hba1c in December was 42 and my cholesterol was down to 4.2.
Lol....
I wouldn't read anything in to your slightly lower reading of 7.1. Meters do fluctuate, and such a slight drop means very little. You could see larger differences by testing several times in succession. It is a bit hit and miss, and all you need to track are the trends over a period of time. Well done on your readings though. Have patience, you will get there.
Metformin doesn't really work that way. It works as an appetite suppressant and works on the liver to help reduce the amount of glucose the liver dumps in our bloodstream when we are fasting or exercising. It doesn't lower BS levels as such. Statins take a good 3 weeks to clear the system, not just a couple of days.
Thank you so for the much valued advice and seeing my 'jokey' side that I'd added to my readings post.
It's really good to know that this forum exists and that folk are genuinely helpful
Cheers,
Ian.
It won't be long before you are helping newbies and giving them the benefit of your experience.
It won't be long before you are helping newbies and giving them the benefit of your experience.
I was the same - my maternal g/father, mother and one of my brothers were/are diabetic so I ate what I considered to be a healthy diet which included w/wheat pasta and bread, jacket spuds, rice, fruit and low fat and low sugar yoghurts etc but it still got me!! However, since changing my diet my BS has reduced.
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