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<blockquote data-quote="NicoleC1971" data-source="post: 2203303" data-attributes="member: 365308"><p>In the past total cholesterol and then high LDL (once this could be measured) were associated with heart disease risk being increased however it is reputed to be a weak indicator and at least half the people admitted to hospital in a US survey had low cholesterol.</p><p>The HDL/trig ratio is a better indicator of risk and one way to raise hdl and lower trigs is to heat high fat/low carb which probably seems counter intuitive in a world where we've been taught to believe that saturated fat 'clogs up the arteries' (does fat clog at 37 degrees?). Researchers have been trying to link sat fat with heart disease for decades but have never done so partly because the science of linking what people eat to their disease outcomes is notoriously hard (is often done on the basis of asking people to recall what they ate weeks ago and is always confounded by other things). Yet even the more reputable trials haven't shown a causal link and sometimes it is shown that people benefit from having higher cholesterol. WHen big pharma has a strong interest in finding the case for doling out more statins you'd think they would try very hard to find conclusive evidence that lowering ldl helps but it doesn't seem that way.</p><p>If you wanted to see great videos by cholesterol sceptics I'd recommend Ivor Cummins (the Fat Emporer and a chemical engineer) or Malcolm Kendrick (a doctor) and Dr Zoe Harcombe PhD who has an excellent site debunking some of our current dietary orthodoxies. Asseem Malhotra is a cardiologist who doesn't take the conventional line either. All of their YouTube videos are very watchable.</p><p>At the end of the day you could write a pros and cons list and see where you come out. As you rightly point out you could legitimately take a few weeks to make lifestyle changes but do be aware that the less cholesterol you eat the more your own liver will make so don't give up eggs or prawns just yet!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NicoleC1971, post: 2203303, member: 365308"] In the past total cholesterol and then high LDL (once this could be measured) were associated with heart disease risk being increased however it is reputed to be a weak indicator and at least half the people admitted to hospital in a US survey had low cholesterol. The HDL/trig ratio is a better indicator of risk and one way to raise hdl and lower trigs is to heat high fat/low carb which probably seems counter intuitive in a world where we've been taught to believe that saturated fat 'clogs up the arteries' (does fat clog at 37 degrees?). Researchers have been trying to link sat fat with heart disease for decades but have never done so partly because the science of linking what people eat to their disease outcomes is notoriously hard (is often done on the basis of asking people to recall what they ate weeks ago and is always confounded by other things). Yet even the more reputable trials haven't shown a causal link and sometimes it is shown that people benefit from having higher cholesterol. WHen big pharma has a strong interest in finding the case for doling out more statins you'd think they would try very hard to find conclusive evidence that lowering ldl helps but it doesn't seem that way. If you wanted to see great videos by cholesterol sceptics I'd recommend Ivor Cummins (the Fat Emporer and a chemical engineer) or Malcolm Kendrick (a doctor) and Dr Zoe Harcombe PhD who has an excellent site debunking some of our current dietary orthodoxies. Asseem Malhotra is a cardiologist who doesn't take the conventional line either. All of their YouTube videos are very watchable. At the end of the day you could write a pros and cons list and see where you come out. As you rightly point out you could legitimately take a few weeks to make lifestyle changes but do be aware that the less cholesterol you eat the more your own liver will make so don't give up eggs or prawns just yet! [/QUOTE]
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