Stopped Statins

Squire Fulwood said:

It amazes me why the "majority" cling on to the old beliefs without any evidence to support them.

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That's how religion works.

Mr_Pot said:

That's how religion works.

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Dr. Roger Unger called it Dogma Displacement Inertia (DDI).

Desidinero said:

Squire, she also said this, "Statins are not the answer for anyone seeking to avoid cardiovascular disease. The answer, instead, is to modify the diet to include foods that are rich in cholesterol and saturated fat," So she is saying to do the opposite of what the majority says. What say you?

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A lot of us on this site do the opposite of what the majority and most HCP's say and are very much healthier for it..

I was told by a medical consultant that with the much lower Trigs I am now getting from Low Carb that she would not panic if I decided to stop taking the statins, but that they still offer me some protection from hart problems and that as I am not getting the side effects I should keep taking them. (Yes my trigs were high enough to get the GP to send me to a lipid consultant, but they had come right down due to low carb by the time I got the appointment.)

High Trigs and Type2 increased the risk of heart problems statins lower the risk a little. A 20 minute walk each day lowers the risk more than satins do, but does not stop the satins having a benefit.

If I got the side effects I would stop taking the statins, if I was offered them at my current Trigs level, I would be a hard choose, as there is a risk starting any drug.

The effect of statins remains long after you've ceased taking them ... IMHO

AnnieC said:

I take


Sorry do you mean Amlodipine....you have amlipodine.......can't be taken with Simvastatin...I take both Amlodipine and Simvastatin have done now for about 5 years and never heard before you can't take them together

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There is an FDA advisory on this

https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-upda...ions-with-concomitant-amlodipine-or-diltiazem

Edit to add another one from Merk themselves
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2011/019766s083lbl.pdf

Jude said:

Thank you all for your comments - just a matter of time now before I can assess any improvements.

Any more comments will still be appreciated.

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my understanding of statins is that they tend to raise blood glucose levels so it is a puzzle to me why they would be prescribed to someone trying to lower their blood sugar......I too have read of hair loss as a side effect x

Statins raise blood glucose levels a little for some people, they greatly reduce risk of heart problems for people who have lots of very small cholesterol particles, and for other people reduce risks a little. People with type2 are likely to have more of these very small cholesterol particles, anyone will very high Trigs is very likely to have more of these very small cholesterol particles.

The NHS don't test for very small cholesterol particles and hence assume that everyone will Type2 needs statins.

The research shows a clear benefit to taking statins for anyone with Type2, but the benefit is a lot less if our BG is well controlled with diet. The research shows few side effects from statins, but in real life, they seem to be a lot more side effects.

ringi said:

Statins raise blood glucose levels a little for some people, they greatly reduce risk of heart problems for people who have lots of very small cholesterol particles, and for other people reduce risks a little. People with type2 are likely to have more of these very small cholesterol particles, anyone will very high Trigs is very likely to have more of these very small cholesterol particles.

The NHS don't test for very small cholesterol particles and hence assume that everyone will Type2 needs statins.

The research shows a clear benefit to taking statins for anyone with Type2, but the benefit is a lot less if our BG is well controlled with diet. The research shows few side effects from statins, but in real life, they seem to be a lot more side effects.

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The recent meta study published this year showed that the only group of people who benefitted from statin therapy were males who had already suffered from a cardio vascular event (CVE). Women hardly benefitted at all, and older people had increased risks. The so called protection benefit that the trials data showed up is an extension of life by a day or so, when taking a large dose of statins for over 10 years, so IMO not worth the pain and other [non existant] side effects. Its been hyped up like the Iraq WMD report.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4513492/

Another study showed that having low cholesterol actually increased risk of premature death, and that older people needed to run with higher cholesterol levels.

So artificially dropping cholesterol may be putting you in danger, LDL is an essential and vital part of the metabolism process, and without it we would die, It is the proportion ratio between HDL and LDL that may be significant, not their actual numeric value, Also the blood test for lipids must be done as a fasting test, otherwise the results are meaningless, Many GP's forget to stipulate this when arranging your test,