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Strange story about BG ... looking to understand

bardos

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Well, to start, I'm a type 2 diabetic doing a low-carb hi-fat diet. I am also doing 2x850mg metformin pills per day and trying to eat all the right foods which even have a whisper of possible lowering BG possibilities, like cinnamon, nuts, goji berries , apple cider vinegar,etc

My levels are not particularly high, nor low. In general have to be careful what I eat or I will spike upwards. Fruit will spike me, for example.

At the moment a normal morning reading would be around 140 and in the evening 115.

Last summer I went to Hawaii to visit my son and his wife who live there. He has a diet very similar to mine, more or less described as paleo. However, they do eat out a lot at restaurants. So I was included. I felt like I was on a cheat holiday, so at restaurants I would occasionally have some pizza, or nice pita bread, or a fruit smoothie.

Arriving home I would notice that my blood sugar would spike up to 180 or so after a meal like that. But the weird thing was that only a couple of hours later, my BG would constantly be sitting at below 100, at 90 or 85. A strong rebound. I struggled to understand what was happening.

Anyway, I didn't think much about it, arriving back home and watching my blood glucose levels creep up...

Anyway, the day before yesterday I treated myself to some creamed coconut. It's pure, but very sweet. So yesterday morning I was surprised to see my BG at 200... I reviewed the previous day and thought about the creamed coconut I had been unable to resist. Usually I'm very good at keeping away from these foods.

I figured my BG would be going down over the course of the day, or maybe two days, and would hit my "normal "levels. Last night my BG, taken twice from disbelief, was 78 and 90.

This morning's reading was, in a carryover, I reckon, 111.

So it seems that there is some sort of equal and opposite reaction to upward spikes. Could it be that I need a cheat day every so often. I am not understanding this phenomena. Can anyone comment on my practical experience? Thanks
 
Not my specialist subject, but could @bardos experience be connected to reactive hypoglycaemia? The people who might be able to comment are @Brunneria and @nosher8355
Sorry if I've got this completely wrong, but at least it will bring the post to the top again.
Sally
 
Thanks @sally and james

Hi and welcome @bardos
When you experience these 'rebounds' how low do you go? Have you ever had an actual hypo? Or the feelings of one a few hours after eating higher carbs than usual?
 
Thanks @sally and james

Hi and welcome @bardos
When you experience these 'rebounds' how low do you go? Have you ever had an actual hypo? Or the feelings of one a few hours after eating higher carbs than usual?

I never go very low, just back into, what I would call, normal territory. Never anything below 70, usually high 80s.

And no, I have never experienced anything similar to a hypo reaction.

Today after eating lunch up to 126.

I will check tomorrow morning.
 
Thanks for answering. :)

There is a condition called Reactive hypoglycaemia, where eating carbs triggers an excessive insulin reaction, leading to a hypo.
- but if you don't hypo, then It looks like you don't have RH.
Which is good!

Maybe you have a second phase insulin reaction that mops things up better than most? That is pure speculation...
 
Thanks for answering. :)

There is a condition called Reactive hypoglycaemia, where eating carbs triggers an excessive insulin reaction, leading to a hypo.
- but if you don't hypo, then It looks like you don't have RH.
Which is good!

Maybe you have a second phase insulin reaction that mops things up better than most? That is pure speculation...

That's why I asked the question. My theory has been that that every person who is labeled "diabetic" has a completely different... looking for a word here... can't find it. Cause?

The only thing we really have in common is high blood sugar. For a myriad of different causes.

One other tidbit about my personal condition. Intermittent fasting will also bring me down to fairly normal ranges as well.
 
I think intermittent fasting lowers the insulin resistance (especially background insulin resistance) for a lot of T2s. It certainly does so for me. And anything that brings down IR is a good thing. :D
 
this morning at wakeup = 122. It appears that the effects of my "rebound hypo" are continuing. If my BG rises, I will attempt to repeat this experiment, just with much less carbs than before so as not to hit too high a spike. But definitely will see how long these numbers last and then if I see a rise I'll try this experiment again
 
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