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Struggling with Blood sugars, Fibromyalgia and weight issues

thumper_ke

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I test my blood sugars daily on waking up, and they are consistently high. Can sometimes be around 14 or 15.
I take Metformin SR twice a day, Gliclazide twice a day, Lyxumia once a day. I also take pregablin twice a day, sertraline, simvastatin, omeprazole, metoclopramide and levothyroxine. I eat a bowl of shredded wheat bitesize and a cup of tea for brekkies, quavers, apple, some other fruit, yoghurt, a couple of 'healthy' bars and a brioche for lunch, then a normal evening meal. Can be a few chips, gamon, eggs and beans or something similar and an ice cream (Magnum type). I am always very hungry, so sometimes have a muffin, hot cross bun, or a few cheesy biscuits
I'm struggling to get any weight to get off as I am in so much pain from the fibro I can't exercise easily. My weight in Dr's terms is extremely obese.
I need to know where I am going wrong, or how to curb the consistently hungry feelings so I don't eat as much.
I don't eat chocolate bars like mars or snickers, and only ever have one packet of crisps, quavers being my current favourite sugars are less than 1% RDA @ 0.4g.
I also drink a lot of tea and Pepsi Max
 
You need to go on a very low carb diet and have more good protein and fat to keep you full plus lots of green veg. My glucose would be far higher than that if I ate what you do; I just watch my husband and drool!!!

Sorry but the NO NOs on you list are:shredded wheat; everything on your lunch menu; and chips, beans and ice cream + the muffin, hot cross bun, and cheesy biscuits.You need to look at the cards as some low "sugars" are actually very high in carbs.

For breakfast I have two eggs with loads of veg; spinach, celery, peppers, mushrooms, onions, broccoli, leek, tomatoes etc. Put masses of spinach in a large frying pan with some coconut oil and add a selection of chopped up veg, put the lid on and wilt the veg. When it is soft add the two eggs and keet stirring until the eggs have set. I hated it at first but I am used to it now and have that almost every day. I no longer eat fruit either as that raises my glucose a lot, really miss my fruit! There is a lot on the forum about low carb high fat recipes. If you have lots of protein and fat it will keep you full for longer. Good luck.
 
I'm tagging @daisy1 for a new member post for you.

I agree with the above but because of your medication you need to test more often than just first thing. You need to test before and after your food to see how you are managing.

When I reduced the carbohydrate and sugars in my diet and started eating real butter, cheese and cream I lost weight but also started feeling full for longer.

Some of those "healthy" bars can be as bad or worse than chocolate for sugar. I eat two squares of 70-80% dark chocolate when I get the urge. One of the many tips I picked up from the forum.

Have a good read around the forum, see what people are eating, ask lots of questions and have a good look at the amount of carbs in your diet and change one meal at a time testing to ensure that don't raise you more than 2 mmol at 2 hours.
 
@thumper_ke

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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