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<blockquote data-quote="seadragon" data-source="post: 1251145" data-attributes="member: 195124"><p>Don't let them bully you into taking statins. At best they could increase your life expectancy by something like 4 days or you could be one of the 96% or more of people for whom they will have no benefit whatsoever but you'll still suffer side effects.</p><p>The last I heard surgeries were indeed getting extra money for every body they prescribed statins too. And of course they already get extra money for every diabetic on their books which may explain why they were so keen to get me as a pre diabetic to take statins (proven to increase blood sugar levels) and feed me a high carb diet. Truly I was advised by the nurse to make sure I ate plenty of starchy carbs at every meal.</p><p>For the record my cholesterol levels were around 5.5 total when i first went. But trigs lowish and HDL /LDL ratio was good. I said I didn't think my cholesterol needed lowering so doc then said 'oh statins have other benefits' but she was not able to be in any way specific about what those mythical other benefits might be (maybe didn't listen hard enough to the drug pushers (oops - salesmen) who are the main means docs get updated info these days. As far as I know though nobody has stated what these 'other benefits' could be.</p><p>Anyway after a year of low carb high fat diet (with great info from this forum and from dietdoctor.com ) my HBA1c was normal and my cholesterol though marginally higher total had lower trigs and better HDL /LDL ratio. The numbers they come up with seem to have been literally pulled out of thin air - there is no apparent rationale except greater use of statins and profits for the drug companies. Latest research does seem to point to too low a cholesterol being as dangerous as to high.</p><p>And if you want to get pregnant definitely do not take them. What dangerous advice you seem to have been given.I would be complaining or changing practices if possible.</p><p>The NHS is sadly very guilty of treating everyone as the same when we are all very different with different bodies, metabolisms, lifestyles, needs etc. Not only is this approach hugely wasteful ( who thinks it's a good idea to treat well people for no good reason with something that may in fact make them sick and often compromises their quality of life as well as being costly) of NHS resources but damaging to many people.</p><p>Whatever happened to 'First do no harm!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seadragon, post: 1251145, member: 195124"] Don't let them bully you into taking statins. At best they could increase your life expectancy by something like 4 days or you could be one of the 96% or more of people for whom they will have no benefit whatsoever but you'll still suffer side effects. The last I heard surgeries were indeed getting extra money for every body they prescribed statins too. And of course they already get extra money for every diabetic on their books which may explain why they were so keen to get me as a pre diabetic to take statins (proven to increase blood sugar levels) and feed me a high carb diet. Truly I was advised by the nurse to make sure I ate plenty of starchy carbs at every meal. For the record my cholesterol levels were around 5.5 total when i first went. But trigs lowish and HDL /LDL ratio was good. I said I didn't think my cholesterol needed lowering so doc then said 'oh statins have other benefits' but she was not able to be in any way specific about what those mythical other benefits might be (maybe didn't listen hard enough to the drug pushers (oops - salesmen) who are the main means docs get updated info these days. As far as I know though nobody has stated what these 'other benefits' could be. Anyway after a year of low carb high fat diet (with great info from this forum and from dietdoctor.com ) my HBA1c was normal and my cholesterol though marginally higher total had lower trigs and better HDL /LDL ratio. The numbers they come up with seem to have been literally pulled out of thin air - there is no apparent rationale except greater use of statins and profits for the drug companies. Latest research does seem to point to too low a cholesterol being as dangerous as to high. And if you want to get pregnant definitely do not take them. What dangerous advice you seem to have been given.I would be complaining or changing practices if possible. The NHS is sadly very guilty of treating everyone as the same when we are all very different with different bodies, metabolisms, lifestyles, needs etc. Not only is this approach hugely wasteful ( who thinks it's a good idea to treat well people for no good reason with something that may in fact make them sick and often compromises their quality of life as well as being costly) of NHS resources but damaging to many people. Whatever happened to 'First do no harm!" [/QUOTE]
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