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<blockquote data-quote="CherryAA" data-source="post: 1814743" data-attributes="member: 327005"><p>I have been priviliged to attend both of the conferences, and being the slightly noise lady that I am, also both make a few points and have conversations with a few of the experts including both of the diabetes.co.uk representatives</p><p>Nina Teicholz, Gary Taubes, Zoe Harcombe, Eric Westman, Georgia Eades, Adele Hite, Dr Aseem Malhotra, Dan Mozzafarian and Salem Yusuf , Carolin Zinn and Dr Unwin and many more. All truly fascinating characters. </p><p></p><p>I was also asked to give interviews for a couple of different documentaries. </p><p></p><p>I had a rather vehement conversation with Mr Mozzafarian where he informed me in no uncertain terms that regardless of my own health improvements, if I did not move towards the recommended diet I would develop future health problems as a diet rich in meat was clearly less than optimal and that no matter how many N=1 come forward, they will never be valid science compared to the results obtained by epidemiology - needless to say that particular opinion got short shrift with him ( and is now recorded as part of a potential documentary) . </p><p></p><p>I was also privileged to spend some time with Dr. Rod Taylor . Interestingly whilst it is very clear that for him the use of shakes is entirely a matter of convenience and of course one should use real foods, he is also totally convinced one needs to lose weight in order to recover even if you are already slim. (ie your personal fat threshold is too high) To me that was an example of exactly what happens in science. You find a solution and it quickly becomes the only solution. In practise I have improved my hba1C by 10 more points ( 44 to 34 ) whilst putting ON some weight as I try to maximise my good uality nutrient intake after many years of deficiency.</p><p>On Roy Taylors, definition Iam now clearly within my " personal fat threshold" and yet I am still outsize and I would still much prefer not to haev the extra bits healthy or not. </p><p></p><p>This study from Japan in 2008 which informed my own journey uite clearly shows that massive improvements in metabolic health can occur in already slim people already only weighing 59kg as a result of CARBOHYDRATE RESTRICTION and by looking at myself, in obese people who stay remain obese if they eat the right things . Eating the right things will naturally bring weight down to a certain level in any event, after that it will still rquire hard graft. </p><p></p><p>I did undertake to send the study to Dr Taylor</p><p></p><p><a href="https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-7075-6-21" target="_blank">https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-7075-6-21</a></p><p></p><p>My take away message was two fold</p><p>a) the traditional community knows it is on the ropes because there is too much robust evidence starting to come forward, but it will be a long fight for capitulation</p><p>b) the low carb commuity needs to get its act together - in a few areas :</p><p></p><p>Properly defining what its terminology means, </p><p>Co-ordinating efforts across different countries, practises and specialites </p><p>Ensuring that in fighting for their own particular proposed solution we do not dissipate the bigger message which is</p><p>T2 CAN BE REVERSED THROUGH NUTRITION and the easiest way to get started is restricting STARCH and SUGARS and SNACKS</p><p></p><p>The definition of reversal needs to be clear andclealry linked to nutrition </p><p></p><p>c) N=1 Needs to become N=1 Million </p><p>We need to overwhelm epidemiology with data of our own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CherryAA, post: 1814743, member: 327005"] I have been priviliged to attend both of the conferences, and being the slightly noise lady that I am, also both make a few points and have conversations with a few of the experts including both of the diabetes.co.uk representatives Nina Teicholz, Gary Taubes, Zoe Harcombe, Eric Westman, Georgia Eades, Adele Hite, Dr Aseem Malhotra, Dan Mozzafarian and Salem Yusuf , Carolin Zinn and Dr Unwin and many more. All truly fascinating characters. I was also asked to give interviews for a couple of different documentaries. I had a rather vehement conversation with Mr Mozzafarian where he informed me in no uncertain terms that regardless of my own health improvements, if I did not move towards the recommended diet I would develop future health problems as a diet rich in meat was clearly less than optimal and that no matter how many N=1 come forward, they will never be valid science compared to the results obtained by epidemiology - needless to say that particular opinion got short shrift with him ( and is now recorded as part of a potential documentary) . I was also privileged to spend some time with Dr. Rod Taylor . Interestingly whilst it is very clear that for him the use of shakes is entirely a matter of convenience and of course one should use real foods, he is also totally convinced one needs to lose weight in order to recover even if you are already slim. (ie your personal fat threshold is too high) To me that was an example of exactly what happens in science. You find a solution and it quickly becomes the only solution. In practise I have improved my hba1C by 10 more points ( 44 to 34 ) whilst putting ON some weight as I try to maximise my good uality nutrient intake after many years of deficiency. On Roy Taylors, definition Iam now clearly within my " personal fat threshold" and yet I am still outsize and I would still much prefer not to haev the extra bits healthy or not. This study from Japan in 2008 which informed my own journey uite clearly shows that massive improvements in metabolic health can occur in already slim people already only weighing 59kg as a result of CARBOHYDRATE RESTRICTION and by looking at myself, in obese people who stay remain obese if they eat the right things . Eating the right things will naturally bring weight down to a certain level in any event, after that it will still rquire hard graft. I did undertake to send the study to Dr Taylor [URL]https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-7075-6-21[/URL] My take away message was two fold a) the traditional community knows it is on the ropes because there is too much robust evidence starting to come forward, but it will be a long fight for capitulation b) the low carb commuity needs to get its act together - in a few areas : Properly defining what its terminology means, Co-ordinating efforts across different countries, practises and specialites Ensuring that in fighting for their own particular proposed solution we do not dissipate the bigger message which is T2 CAN BE REVERSED THROUGH NUTRITION and the easiest way to get started is restricting STARCH and SUGARS and SNACKS The definition of reversal needs to be clear andclealry linked to nutrition c) N=1 Needs to become N=1 Million We need to overwhelm epidemiology with data of our own. [/QUOTE]
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