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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cugila" data-source="post: 148221" data-attributes="member: 15325">I can't convince you it's been around for a long time then........there are references to this from 1981 onwards and I also came across an article which refers to the Somogyi effect from 1930.  Discussing the effects.  As you say there are many reasons for high Bg levels whether in Type 1's or even T2's.  Liver Dump is one of them another the Somogyi effect which again Kegstore and I discussed way back. Whatever the causes may be it does exist and has been known about for some time.As you say, medication that isn't working can also be a cause. I don't dispute that. What I am saying is that the term 'liver dump' does exist and what happens in that process also exists. Not disputing what the cause may be. Lantus may or may not be involved here, however the term 'liver dump' was around before Lantus was in production. It's just a metabolic process. A natural phenomenon.Ken</blockquote>

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