• Guest - w'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the 2025 Survey »

T2 Nice blood sugar levels on waking,

kiwifrank

kiwifrank

Well-Known Member
Messages
53
Location
Auckland, NZ
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Rudeness, Arrogance and warm beer
Hi All, can anyone guide me? We have guidelines on nice readings on Type 1 and Type 2 testing but no 'nice' readings on waking for Type 2's, anyone have ideas on this?
 
Hi Frank

My understanding is that < 6 is desirable in the morning. I was diagnosed a year ago and can never achieve less than 7 in the morning, yet the rest of the day I am 4 - 6.5. I am a chronic insomniac so I think that affects my morning BG and maybe why I developed T2 in the first place.

My question to the veterans and doctors who contribute here is does it really matter if the morning BG is high if it is controlled the rest of the day? I guess this may also be on your mind.

Be interested to share in responses. [The only thing that keeps my morning BG is at least 4 - 5 units of alcohol the evening before - e.g. 3/4 bottle of wine - not a great medicine].

Diet only controlled - minimum carbs
Weight loss around 10kg over the year - up and down
Last Hbc1A 6.7
 
I have been averaging mid 4s to low 5s, but for 9 days now during a silly summer cold with high temp cannot get it under 6 and this morning 7.1, so my machine now shows my 90 days average moving up to 6.1 BUM:)


Sent from my iPhone using DCUK Forum
 
Personally if I'm in the 5s with my FBG I'm happy and think I'm in a good place.

I'm no expert but think if you can maintain a steady number it's better than spiking up in the morning then down - but with liver dumps and such its hard. On the days I do have 7.0s in the morning I take comfort if I'm back to usual levels later in the day.
 
bakedalaska said:
Hi Frank

My understanding is that < 6 is desirable in the morning. I was diagnosed a year ago and can never achieve less than 7 in the morning, yet the rest of the day I am 4 - 6.5. I am a chronic insomniac so I think that affects my morning BG and maybe why I developed T2 in the first place.

My question to the veterans and doctors who contribute here is does it really matter if the morning BG is high if it is controlled the rest of the day? I guess this may also be on your mind.

Be interested to share in responses. [The only thing that keeps my morning BG is at least 4 - 5 units of alcohol the evening before - e.g. 3/4 bottle of wine - not a great medicine].

Diet only controlled - minimum carbs
Weight loss around 10kg over the year - up and down
Last Hbc1A 6.7
Click to expand...
Thank you for the response, i sit around 8 but like you reduces through the day and yes like you again, alchohol can reduce waking readings, look forward to more responses in particular why there are no inidications of what is ought to be early morning. Cheers
 
Something to be aware of is that while you may see lower morning levels after drinking alcohol, it inteferes with the liver's production of glucose and can cause hypos, particularly if you're on insulin or some types of type 2 medications. So perhaps not always a good idea...

Robbity
 
Last edited by a moderator:
@bakedalaska

A fasting bg is important because it helps to identify how well your body is using glucose when you can't 'force' it to come down. For example, you can control is throughout the day by activity, eating, etc.

Fasting bg's are used as a baseline to determine what your body does on its own. Its very important for BG values to come down to close to normal levels when you have no food in you, otherwise, there could be a problem. maybe it's a matter of just adjusting or adding medication.

I think it basically comes down to 'if I eat nothing and do nothing for 8-10 hours, what happens?' And if your level is above the desired range, the question is why?
 
Intermittent fasting is an additional element I personally incorporate into my life rhythm. It can vary from say as little as 12 hours up to 7 days (which at the time of writing I am currently on) and longer, but needs to be well understood and personally with the longer ones I would suggest requires supervision:)

If you are interested there is a Fasting section within this forum and Jason Fung's "The Obesity Code" is an ex Ellen's resource.

Just one of the things a fast does is clear out the stored sugar (glycogen) from your liver and helps stabilise fasting blood glucose.


Sent from my iPad using DCUK Forum
 
kiwifrank said:
Hi there, yes, there is no test level upon waking for type 2
Click to expand...

Correct. Possibly because without the aid of insulin injections or certain other meds the fasting levels are hit and miss depending on liver dumps, sleepless nights and so on. As a fasting BG of 7 taken at the surgery is deemed diabetic for diagnosis purposes, I would imagine the recommended level might be 7 or under.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Correct. Possibly because without the aid of insulin injections or certain other meds the fasting levels are hit and miss depending on liver dumps, sleepless nights and so on. As a fasting BG of 7 taken at the surgery is deemed diabetic for diagnosis purposes, I would imagine the recommended level might be 7 or under.
Click to expand...
Thank you for that, just looking for a guide really, most mornings I'm on 7 to 7.5, still early days for me here and appreciate everyone's input:)
 
Back
Top