T2 + takeaways = disaster???

mehdave said:

* occasional in this case means once every 3-4 weeks

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mehdave said:

I have my takeaway every week for example

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Don't worry, I'm just being a bit pernickety, or I would be if I could spell it

Grazer said:

Don't worry, I'm just being a bit pernickety

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Dont worry about it everyone's different.

Grazer said:

...I'm just being a bit pernickety, or I would be if I could spell it

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Did you mean Persnickety? "Placing too much emphasis on trivial or minor details; fussy" lol

Makes me think of an episode of QI where Stephen Fry has just corrected someone on a minor point (for the umpteenth time) and they ask him "Are you the President of the Pedantic Society?!?" to which Stephen smugly replies "The VICE- President... actually" :wink:

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Now to correct MYSELF! lol ...it seems that your spelling was the correct UK version with mine being the US :mrgreen: so am I now being pernickety about being persnickety??? :!:

What I have found with McD's is that it nearly kill's me now ,literally :mrgreen: I only have to look at a Quarter pounder and I start to feel a bit Wan. I used to love a Quarter pounder meal with a strawberry milkshake if I was in the mood, or wanting to clear a hangover....oh those were the days :wink:

Since being really strict with my diet and eating very healthy and going easy on the carbs for the last 5 years I have found that my tolerance regarding my blood sugar control with any fast food of the burger/pizza variety is nonexistent.
If I eat anything like that now I might as well just hook myself up to an Apidra insulin drip a couple of hours after I have eaten it, and that is having had a big dose of fast acting with it.

I find it is the combination of the food groups . I can tolerate the carbs, no great spike. I can tolerate the fat and sugar...Fat and sugar together even ie, chocolate not bad for me...but mix in a big lump of protein with that , blimey, I'm in serious trouble and really feel like dying.

I never used to be so sensitive to the food groups but on the whole the longer I have tried to help my control with eating as clean as possible then the more sensitive I have become to the odd deviation, ie take away, high fat, protein, carb food, all the tasty stuff :lol: ..animal fat and sugar Mmmmmmm! ....and I know i really is not worth that moments pleasure for me anymore to feel terrible for the next several hours.

Is it s bad thing :?: Sometimes when all around me are chowing down on something tasty my taste buds might miss it, but on the whole I know now what it takes to burn that many calories off...and that quarter pounder meal totally negates one of my long hill runs. When you realise how hard you have to work to burn off so few a calories, it really makes you think about what you put in the old mush :shock: Right I'm off for a grape now!

I eat what i want, i dont follow any diet because it would be tasteless boring food!

So that a be the.......Non tasteless boring food! Diet....then.. :lol:

In the European Union (EU), HFCS, known as isoglucose or glucose-fructose syrup, is subject to a production quota. In 2005, this quota was set at 303,000 tons; in comparison, the EU produced an average of 18.6 million tons of sugar annually between 1999 and 2001.[37] Therefore, wide scale replacement of sugar has not occurred in the EU

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup
HGCS doesn't seem to have played any great part in the increase in obesity in either the UK and particularly in Australia where the consumption of all sugars has fallen (in contrast to the US) yet obesity has increased 3 fold.
The Australian Paradox: A Substantial Decline in Sugars Intake over the Same Timeframe that Overweight and Obesity Have Increased
http://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/3/4/491
Personally, I think the problem lies with highly palatable, high energy quick fix foods (sugar+fat ) and not one element over any another
(though after you haven' t eaten them for a while you realised that they aren't so palatable anyway)

"Sugars" (mono and disaccharides) may be down, but what about "Starches" (polysaccharides)? In many cases -- especially when refined and processed -- these can be just as quickly digested as the simple "sugars".

Maltodextrin for example is classed as a "Starch" rather than a "Sugar"...

Maltodextrin is a polysaccharide that is used as a food additive. It is produced from starch by partial hydrolysis and is usually found as a creamy-white hygroscopic spraydried powder. Maltodextrin is easily digestible, being absorbed as rapidly as glucose, and might be either moderately sweet or almost flavorless. It is commonly used for the production of natural sodas and candy. It can also be found as an ingredient in a variety of other processed foods.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltodextrin

The use of the term "Sugars" can be, I think, deliberately misleading and I have no doubts that the food manufacturers are well aware of the confusion surrounding the use of these terms. It means a different thing to nutritionists than it does to the general public.

I do however agree that there is a problem with high energy, highly palatable processed foods... I'm just not so sure we can believe the statistics stating that "Sugars" are down. Perhaps we need to clear up the confusion over these terms?

bowell said:

So that a be the.......Non tasteless boring food! Diet....then.. :lol:

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Well yes all food is boring, but some eat the same everyday like salads. I cant do that. Ive tried cutting back on the amounts i eat then im just hungry and pick at food all day!