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<blockquote data-quote="Bebo321" data-source="post: 801810" data-attributes="member: 68730"><p>Hiya,</p><p>There's no such thing as a stupid question here.</p><p>I have a reasonable knowledge around diabetes, but I am in no way qualified to offer advice - only your healthcare team can do that. I can make observations though which may help a bit.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I appreciate that you're reluctant to make a detailed record of BGs and what you're eating - I didn't mean do it for the rest of your life though LOL (what a bore that could become!) but have a go for just a week - testing throughout the day (say five/six tests depending on what you're doing, so more if you think you might do something to send them up or bring them down) and keep a log of everything you eat.</p><p>The reason I suggest it would be useful as a source of information for your healthcare team is your recorded lows. For example, if you take your Thursday morning BG of 7.1, that falls to 3.7 at lunchtime with apparently no exercise. If you then chose to eat a low or even zero carb meal for lunch, I would be concerned that your BG could continue to fall through the afternoon. Even though your liver should be able to cope and release glucose to bring your BGs back up again, it might suggest that the gliclazide isn't really necessary after all.</p><p></p><p>Fantastic amount of walking by the way! You're not getting much of a lowering in your BG, but it will be definitely helping with your overall BG management. Have you thought of doing something a bit more strenuous? Raising your heart rate a little will probably give you a BG rise, but as a consequence you will gain better BGs for up to a couple of days after. If you then start to build muscle, you should see some excellent improvements.</p><p></p><p>Insulin sensitivity and exercise is all about increasing and mobilising the GLUT4 transporters in your muscles (these are the proteins that are able to transport glucose into muscle cells without any need for insulin) When you exercise they automatically mobilise to the surface of your muscles,and proliferate in number. This gives you better BG readings for 24 to 48hrs after you finish exercising, because they're all there gobbling up glucose.</p><p></p><p>Oh, also, a point to mention about having artificially higher insulin levels and eating carbs - when you have insulin constantly circulating around your body it can be very difficult to manage your weight, just because your body remains in 'fat storage mode' - or at least that is the common belief. </p><p></p><p>[USER=65903]@stuffedolive[/USER], you mentioned about glucose/glycogen uptake after you finish exercising. You might like to try (if you can bear it!)<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite40" alt=":hungover:" title="Hungover :hungover:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":hungover:" /> drinking a bit of apple cider vinegar after a bout of exercise. This is believed to enhance and speed up glycogen replenishement. Although I don't think there are scientific trials that prove this in humans, there have been in mice - it's also used for racehorses to aid rapid recovery. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bebo321, post: 801810, member: 68730"] Hiya, There's no such thing as a stupid question here. I have a reasonable knowledge around diabetes, but I am in no way qualified to offer advice - only your healthcare team can do that. I can make observations though which may help a bit.:) I appreciate that you're reluctant to make a detailed record of BGs and what you're eating - I didn't mean do it for the rest of your life though LOL (what a bore that could become!) but have a go for just a week - testing throughout the day (say five/six tests depending on what you're doing, so more if you think you might do something to send them up or bring them down) and keep a log of everything you eat. The reason I suggest it would be useful as a source of information for your healthcare team is your recorded lows. For example, if you take your Thursday morning BG of 7.1, that falls to 3.7 at lunchtime with apparently no exercise. If you then chose to eat a low or even zero carb meal for lunch, I would be concerned that your BG could continue to fall through the afternoon. Even though your liver should be able to cope and release glucose to bring your BGs back up again, it might suggest that the gliclazide isn't really necessary after all. Fantastic amount of walking by the way! You're not getting much of a lowering in your BG, but it will be definitely helping with your overall BG management. Have you thought of doing something a bit more strenuous? Raising your heart rate a little will probably give you a BG rise, but as a consequence you will gain better BGs for up to a couple of days after. If you then start to build muscle, you should see some excellent improvements. Insulin sensitivity and exercise is all about increasing and mobilising the GLUT4 transporters in your muscles (these are the proteins that are able to transport glucose into muscle cells without any need for insulin) When you exercise they automatically mobilise to the surface of your muscles,and proliferate in number. This gives you better BG readings for 24 to 48hrs after you finish exercising, because they're all there gobbling up glucose. Oh, also, a point to mention about having artificially higher insulin levels and eating carbs - when you have insulin constantly circulating around your body it can be very difficult to manage your weight, just because your body remains in 'fat storage mode' - or at least that is the common belief. [USER=65903]@stuffedolive[/USER], you mentioned about glucose/glycogen uptake after you finish exercising. You might like to try (if you can bear it!):hungover: drinking a bit of apple cider vinegar after a bout of exercise. This is believed to enhance and speed up glycogen replenishement. Although I don't think there are scientific trials that prove this in humans, there have been in mice - it's also used for racehorses to aid rapid recovery. :) [/QUOTE]
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