Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.
It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.
The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.
If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.
The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.
Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.
When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.
As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!
If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.
The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l.(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l. ( Type 2)
2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l (Type 1)
If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.
It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.
The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.
Sue/Ken.
Apparently, my 2 blood tests show my sugar content at 15 and 16. What does this mean? Is this high? Low?
This looks lke it is a TOTAL cholesterol count. TOTAL cholesterol is usually (in a healthy person) below 4. However, to get an accurate view of your lipids (lipid = fat = cholesterol) you'll need a breakdown of LDL (Bad) and HDL (Good) cholesterol (called a lipid profile). Your Triglyceride level (Trigs = another type of cholesterol) should also be closely monitored.I have a colestoral count of 8. How bad, problematic is this?
This is the most important advice anyone will give you - EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT! Some people can tollerate small amounts of pasta without it raising their sugar levels. Most people will tell you that all types (refined/wholemeal) of pasta raise your bg. You'll need to test your blood after you've eaten pasta at 1 hr and 2hr intervals.I've seen on other forum thread that need to be careful of pasta - is this just the refined pasta?
As above - everyone is different. Eat some and then test. I haven't found an bread that I can eat without a BG spike (brown OR white).Be careful with bread - I don't eat white bread so is this a problem?
I eat lots of olives as part of a low carb diet. They are high in fat, but if you follow a lo-carb regime you can easily include olives.Can I eat olives, tinned fruits?
akabob said:Look I don't want to be rude (or alienate people) but I do wish to be blunt. I asked some questions because I don't know and haven't been able to find the answers. I won't be seeing my doctor for at least two weeks and i won't be seeing a dietician for at least the same period.
It's senseless posting the same reply to every one. I'm getting conflcicting advice. On the thread technical questions I asked specific questions because i don't know the answers.
akabob said:Look I don't want to be rude (or alienate people) but I do wish to be blunt. I asked some questions because I don't know and haven't been able to find the answers. I won't be seeing my doctor for at least two weeks and i won't be seeing a dietician for at least the same period.
It's senseless posting the same reply to every one. I'm getting conflcicting advice. On the thread technical questions I asked specific questions because i don't know the answers.
akabob said:Well, I might have come across as a bit abrasive and impatient. If I did then I apologise. The standard/automated reply that was given by Sugarless Sue whilst informative was without meaning to me. I’d read that advice on other posts. I wanted answers to specific questions – it was only in this sense that the advice given was inappropriate. So once again sorry.
First of all, the advice you were given is not automated. We read each and every post on this Forum and we offer advice where appropriate. It is up to the individual to either accept or ignore it.
There are many things in that advice which are pertinent to you and your circumstances. We answer posts or parts of posts as we see fit. We are not obliged to answer each and every aspect of a particular post. Quite often we leave certain areas for other members to answer. If they don't answer you that is nothing to do with us and is no reason to say that your advice given was inappopriate.
I don’t know what ‘the strips’ are or what to do with them. I don’t know what terms such as mmol/ mean. I’ve checked these terms out but the science is meaningless to me. I don’t know what it all means. So telling me the NICE guidelines is not meaningful or helpful to be.
'Strips' are blood glucose test strips which you use in a meter to test your blood glucose levels. A very important item. mmol/l is the measurement used when taking your blood glucose readings with a meter and the test strips. If you had asked the supplementary questions then we or other members would have answered you. The NICE guidelines are the suggested levels which you should at first try to achieve. It is self explanatory and is something that not all Diabetic's even ones with many years experience do not know, so they are helpful.......something you as a newly diagnosed Diabetic need to know.
In the meantime I’ve looked at information about diabetics on a variety of sites in UK, Australia etc. The information is daunting and from an initial perspective conflicting. On the one hand I need carbohydrates but on the other I need to avoid if on low carb diet. It’s confusing and contradictory to me. How do I know I need to be on low carb diet?
You mention a low carb diet, we here on this Forum as Monitor's do not recommend any type of diet, one of us is a low carber, the other just reduced carbs. By giving you the information about carbs and other things that is designed to help you. It is not forcing you to do anything. You read the information from ALL members and make your own mind up as to which way you think will work best for yourself. We are all different in how we react to certain foods and only by frequent testing in the first instance will you find out what works for you.
I’d like to specifically say thank you to Patch for answering the specific questions I asked. I now know that I am considerably sicker than I realised initially. (So as you can see, Dollyrocker, I am extremely grateful).
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