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akabob

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My doc informed me that I have diabetes 2 and then went on holiday. Back in two weeks!

IApparently, my 2 blood tests show my sugar content at 15 and 16. What does this mean? Is this high? Low?

I have a colestoral count of 8. How bad, problematic is this?

I'm to take Metaformin (50 grams) three times a day - with each meal.

I've seen on other forum thread that need to be careful of pasta - is this just the refined pasta? Be careful with bread - I don't eat white bread so is this a problem?

Can I eat olives, tinned fruits?

Thanks folks.
 
A cholesterol count of 8 is high. Generally the lower you are the better as a diabetic. This can be sometimes achieved by changing your diet. Here is some general advice for newly diagnosed.

 
Inppropriate advice re technical question

Look I don't want to be rude (or alienate people) but I do wish to be blunt. I asked some questions because I don't know and haven't been able to find the answers. I won't be seeing my doctor for at least two weeks and i won't be seeing a dietician for at least the same period.

It's senseless posting the same reply to every one. I'm getting conflcicting advice. On the thread technical questions I asked specific questions because i don't know the answers.
 
Re: Inppropriate advice re technical question

The people who post here aren't doctors, it's made very clear on the forum that any advice given should be corroborated by your doctor. You will always gfet varied opinions if you post on the internety, that's the way it works.

Grateful much?
 
Re: Inppropriate advice re technical question

I'll answer your specific questions - but Sue pointed you in the right direction to allow you to research and find the answers for yourself. If you are foud to be diabetic, that's what you'll have to do to maintain tight control.

Your q's:

Apparently, my 2 blood tests show my sugar content at 15 and 16. What does this mean? Is this high? Low?

This is very high. A normal persons BG levels are between 4 and 7 at all times of the day. Ideally a (non-dabetic) persons BG would be below 7 before eating, and STILL below 7 AFTER eating. This is difficult to maintain in a diabetic person.

I have a colestoral count of 8. How bad, problematic is this?
This looks lke it is a TOTAL cholesterol count. TOTAL cholesterol is usually (in a healthy person) below 4. However, to get an accurate view of your lipids (lipid = fat = cholesterol) you'll need a breakdown of LDL (Bad) and HDL (Good) cholesterol (called a lipid profile). Your Triglyceride level (Trigs = another type of cholesterol) should also be closely monitored.

I've seen on other forum thread that need to be careful of pasta - is this just the refined pasta?
This is the most important advice anyone will give you - EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT! Some people can tollerate small amounts of pasta without it raising their sugar levels. Most people will tell you that all types (refined/wholemeal) of pasta raise your bg. You'll need to test your blood after you've eaten pasta at 1 hr and 2hr intervals.

Be careful with bread - I don't eat white bread so is this a problem?
As above - everyone is different. Eat some and then test. I haven't found an bread that I can eat without a BG spike (brown OR white).

Can I eat olives, tinned fruits?
I eat lots of olives as part of a low carb diet. They are high in fat, but if you follow a lo-carb regime you can easily include olives.

Tinned fruits are a no-no. They are high in sugar, and are usually packed in sugar syrup. Some fresh fruits have minimal impact on BG. I eat lots of berries with no impact on my BG. I have to avoid banana's and pears at all costs, though...

You'll have to take control of this yourself. Your Dr. can give you advice, but essentially it'll fall to you to find out what foods you can eat, and what foods you cannot eat. Get a meter, and some test strips, and test after eating your favourite foods. You'll probably find that a lot of your favourite foods are no longer going t o be in your diet, as they'll cause Bg spikes

I hope this has helped you. I know it's daunting, but ALL the informati0n you'll need is on this forum. Everyone is happy to help - PM me if you have any specific questions on Lo-carbing. (But ONLY after you've done a little research!!! :wink: )

Good luck!
 
Re: Inppropriate advice re technical question

Akabob, all the advice you have been given above is excellent advice. I was newly diagnosed in March this year and it is hard to get to grips with being a diabetic and reading the advice given here has helped me a lot.

The only way to find out what foods you can eat without raising your BS is to test, but some doctors say that type 2 don't need to test unfortunately. I was told that I don't need too test by one of my doctors which I found totally wrong. How will you know what sends your BS up? Even with the foods that they say you can eat can put your BS up. Its only through testing that you find out what your body can tolerate. As each person is an individual what one can eat another can't. So you will have do what we all have done is test and find out what food sends your BS up.

I hope you don't have a doctor (or PCTs) that wont allow you the meter and the test strips etc on prescription if they don't allow you can apply for a Contour meter free on this site. You get 25 strips and the needle thing free but after that you have to buy them which are expensive. There are conversations on here about where to get cheap ones. I purchased some the other day from eBAY and am awaiting delivery.

There will be different information about food because we are all individuals and react different. There is a good community here and when you feel that you are going off track visit the forum and it helps you to get back on track. You might get a bit depressed about everything but you will come to terms and find a way forward.

Wish you all the best for the future

Sue
 
So that members can see just what the alleged 'inappropriate advice' was that the OP refers to we have merged the two topic's.

Member's will be able to make their own minds up about what is good or bad advice and respond to the OP as they see fit.

Mod 3.
 
Re: Inppropriate advice re technical question



So far all the advice you have been given by a Monitor and members has been good sound advice.

As for posting a good basic advice sheet for any Diabetic that is what happens when we have new or inexperienced members such as yourself join. It is designed to help them get to grips with their Diabetes.

The majority of our members find it very helpful and actually say that there are things in that advice which they didn't know anything about. They are grateful for any of the help they receive on this Forum.

So, not wanting to be rude (or alienate people) but wishing to be blunt.....read my signature..... :wink:

cugila
Forum Monitor
 
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Everyone is different, there is no blueprint for managing your diabetes, you have to own it and you have to manage it.
The guidelines you have been given from Ken and Sue are just that, guidelines. They cannot write menus out for you. I doubt that Ken and Sue eat exacly the same diet. They give excellent advice and you may or may not welcome it, it is up to you. There are no hard and fast rules. Test your responses to foods and then you will know if they are right for you. They are not saying what you can and cannot eat because no one knows the answer to that question.
Examples :- You may be able to eat potatoes, I cannot eat potatoes. You may not be able to eat pasta, I can eat a small portion of it. Patch has stated he cannot eat tinned fruit. I can eat peaches, plums, pears and berries in natural juices but I have to drain the juice off and only have a small portion. We are all different.

It is a minefield when you are new and you will have to keep testing until you can see what is right for you. It does not happen overnight and it is trial and error. Try not to get stressed about it as this will raise your blood sugars. Remember we were all new to this once and as bewildered as you are.

Take care,

Catherine.
 
Well, I might have come across as a bit abrasive and impatient. If I did then I apologise. The standard/automated reply that was given by Sugarless Sue whilst informative was without meaning to me. I’d read that advice on other posts. I wanted answers to specific questions – it was only in this sense that the advice given was inappropriate. So once again sorry.

I don’t know what ‘the strips’ are or what to do with them. I don’t know what terms such as mmol/ mean. I’ve checked these terms out but the science is meaningless to me. I don’t know what it all means. So telling me the NICE guidelines is not meaningful or helpful to be.

In the meantime I’ve looked at information about diabetics on a variety of sites in UK, Australia etc. The information is daunting and from an initial perspective conflicting. On the one hand I need carbohydrates but on the other I need to avoid if on low carb diet. It’s confusing and contradictory to me. How do I know I need to be on low carb diet?

I’d like to specifically say thank you to Patch for answering the specific questions I asked. I now know that I am considerably sicker than I realised initially. (So as you can see, Dollyrocker, I am extremely grateful).
 


Hopefully now you can see why the information was given to you and what it's aims are. We would be grateful if you have a problem with any answers given by a Monitor that you in future address it directly to them using the pm (Private Messaging system) and not start a thread calling the advice 'inappropriate.' That was offensive to both of us as we work as a team here, trying to help ALL members. Normally we would delete such posts, however the answers here may be of help to other new members as to how we deal with things on this Forum. In accordance with the Forum Rules and Ethos which can be found in 'Diabetes Discussions.'

Perhaps now we can get back to answering any questions you may have. That would be more helpful to you than the present thread ........

cugila and sugarless sue
Forum Monitor's
 
To reiterate what others have said there is no one size fits all to this.
I am a reduced carb diet, I was given the usual eat plenty of strachy carbs' advice by the nhs. I have got my HB1ac down to 6.2 this way (hb1ac us your average blood glucose over a longer period, usually 90 days). The only way you will know is to suck it and see! Don't worry it was a whole new language to me a few months ago.
Word to the wise. Everyone who takes the time to reply or advise you is doing so out of a desire to help. In particular cugila and sue put in a huge number of hours to help the newly diagnosed such as you and I.... They don't have to do any of it and then where would people like you and I be?
 
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