Oh its the gravy!!! There I was thinking I was being very good trying so hard to lose weight and eating boiled broccolli, cabbage, carrots, swede, green beans, cabbage, cauliflower all in small portions in a bowel, every meal day in day out for months on end with gravy and wondering why I was putting on weight and even more hungry - after all the diets say eat as much veg as you like. This was before I learned about the root veg being carby. Hence the veg went out the window over 18 months ago and I have lost 2.5stone.