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<blockquote data-quote="Walking Girl" data-source="post: 2131809" data-attributes="member: 510059"><p>Can you point me to the studies that use a different (lower) threshold for returning to “normal” with any other way of eating? Virta Health has some impressive results for low carb, but they define reversal as under 48 without any meds OTHER than Metformin. So, no real way to compare at all, and the same “48 or under” used regardless. Like to see any data that shows results at lower thresholds.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So these (mostly all overweight and obese people) were eating 1,200 - 1,800 calories pre-Newcastle study? And 800-1,200 post normal food plan reintroduction? I missed that data. Where did you find it?</p><p></p><p>The 2/3 number likely comes from the normal basal metabolic rate decrease that would result from going from obese to normal weight, nothing else. When you lose a lot of weight you need to eat less than you did pre- diet to maintain that loss. Even with a big increase in exercise this would be true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Walking Girl, post: 2131809, member: 510059"] Can you point me to the studies that use a different (lower) threshold for returning to “normal” with any other way of eating? Virta Health has some impressive results for low carb, but they define reversal as under 48 without any meds OTHER than Metformin. So, no real way to compare at all, and the same “48 or under” used regardless. Like to see any data that shows results at lower thresholds. So these (mostly all overweight and obese people) were eating 1,200 - 1,800 calories pre-Newcastle study? And 800-1,200 post normal food plan reintroduction? I missed that data. Where did you find it? The 2/3 number likely comes from the normal basal metabolic rate decrease that would result from going from obese to normal weight, nothing else. When you lose a lot of weight you need to eat less than you did pre- diet to maintain that loss. Even with a big increase in exercise this would be true. [/QUOTE]
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