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<blockquote data-quote="triksit" data-source="post: 243222" data-attributes="member: 37793"><p>Hi there,</p><p>Please excuse me going back to the subject at the beginning of this thread - trans fats - which I found very interesting.</p><p>Point 1 - When my husband had gall bladder problems he went on a totally no fat diet for six months with mostly carbs supplying replacement calories. The result was that his cholesterol went from normal to excessively high. After his op he moved back to his diet which included olive oil and dairy products and his cholesterol reverted to normal. Seems to me that this emphasis on low fat/high carb diets may even be leading to the greater number of people with high cholesterol. :think: </p><p></p><p> Point 2 - And this is just my experience:</p><p>At diagnosis, 1998, bg was around 18. I was extremely anaemic and greatly overweight and discovered Hashimoto's syndrome had all but destroyed my thyroid gland. Allergy to metformin made me decide that diet was the way forward and I was given a diet sheet by the nutritionist and a bg meter. </p><p></p><p>As most know, the meter showed the recommended diet to be absurd, (as I had suspected it would). </p><p>I worked out a diet for myself, vegetarian, also using on the fantastic GI information that was only just becoming available on a few sites. I rushed to inform the nutritionist of this information and gave her the links as well as lending my copy of Bernstein. Her response was that it was all too complicated for patients and so better to follow the usual Diabetes UK guidelines. Poor patients!!</p><p></p><p>I got my bg down to under 7 and eventually under 6 and my weight slowly came down. I did not give up fats and for oil only used cold pressed virgin olive oil.</p><p></p><p>BTW some hypos at this time went beyond confusion and talking gibberish to passing out and being revived with glucose tabs pushed in my mouth. It never got to coma levels, thank goodness, and I have leant to control the lows as well as the highs. I don’t think there’s a competition to see whose hypo is worse, if you feel sh*t, you feel sh*t and it does take a good while to get over.</p><p></p><p>Four years ago I became complacent, gave up checking bgs, also because it is so difficult to get test strips for diet only! bg went up to around 12/14 (no hypos!). Dr gave me gliclazide which made me so hungry, I couldn't stop eating leading to high bgs.</p><p></p><p>Finally I took myself in hand and stopped the meds without telling the dr (at least I got to have test strips) and put myself to lose 1kg a week. The main task was to cut portion size down to mouse size. I cut the carbs, obviously to get the bg down but used dairy products and eggs quite freely. Over 14 months I lost 45 kg. Bg dropped to under 5. blood pressure dropped to normal as did cholesterol. Over this time I also followed the Harvard neuropathy programme of supplements - </p><p>http://www.cotdazr.org/diabetes/neuropat.shtml</p><p>which gave amazing improvements in my hands and feet.</p><p>I still have more weight to lose so certainly don't look thin. I went to see a specialist for something unrelated the other day and the first thing she did was begin to reel out the low fat/high carb diet. I nearly fell off my chair. Unfortunately she was going to stick needles in me so I held off on the antagonism but you do wonder what they teach these doctors.</p><p></p><p>I think we have to remember that everybody’s mileage varies</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="triksit, post: 243222, member: 37793"] Hi there, Please excuse me going back to the subject at the beginning of this thread - trans fats - which I found very interesting. Point 1 - When my husband had gall bladder problems he went on a totally no fat diet for six months with mostly carbs supplying replacement calories. The result was that his cholesterol went from normal to excessively high. After his op he moved back to his diet which included olive oil and dairy products and his cholesterol reverted to normal. Seems to me that this emphasis on low fat/high carb diets may even be leading to the greater number of people with high cholesterol. :think: Point 2 - And this is just my experience: At diagnosis, 1998, bg was around 18. I was extremely anaemic and greatly overweight and discovered Hashimoto's syndrome had all but destroyed my thyroid gland. Allergy to metformin made me decide that diet was the way forward and I was given a diet sheet by the nutritionist and a bg meter. As most know, the meter showed the recommended diet to be absurd, (as I had suspected it would). I worked out a diet for myself, vegetarian, also using on the fantastic GI information that was only just becoming available on a few sites. I rushed to inform the nutritionist of this information and gave her the links as well as lending my copy of Bernstein. Her response was that it was all too complicated for patients and so better to follow the usual Diabetes UK guidelines. Poor patients!! I got my bg down to under 7 and eventually under 6 and my weight slowly came down. I did not give up fats and for oil only used cold pressed virgin olive oil. BTW some hypos at this time went beyond confusion and talking gibberish to passing out and being revived with glucose tabs pushed in my mouth. It never got to coma levels, thank goodness, and I have leant to control the lows as well as the highs. I don’t think there’s a competition to see whose hypo is worse, if you feel sh*t, you feel sh*t and it does take a good while to get over. Four years ago I became complacent, gave up checking bgs, also because it is so difficult to get test strips for diet only! bg went up to around 12/14 (no hypos!). Dr gave me gliclazide which made me so hungry, I couldn't stop eating leading to high bgs. Finally I took myself in hand and stopped the meds without telling the dr (at least I got to have test strips) and put myself to lose 1kg a week. The main task was to cut portion size down to mouse size. I cut the carbs, obviously to get the bg down but used dairy products and eggs quite freely. Over 14 months I lost 45 kg. Bg dropped to under 5. blood pressure dropped to normal as did cholesterol. Over this time I also followed the Harvard neuropathy programme of supplements - http://www.cotdazr.org/diabetes/neuropat.shtml which gave amazing improvements in my hands and feet. I still have more weight to lose so certainly don't look thin. I went to see a specialist for something unrelated the other day and the first thing she did was begin to reel out the low fat/high carb diet. I nearly fell off my chair. Unfortunately she was going to stick needles in me so I held off on the antagonism but you do wonder what they teach these doctors. I think we have to remember that everybody’s mileage varies [/QUOTE]
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