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Penny73

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I watched this program and I was disgusted to find out that was just another one of those "have a go at the fat person". It constantly reiterated how much diabetics cost the NHS, it constantly reminded those poor people in the program that they were to blame for their own medical condition. We are not allowed as a community to insult or blame addicts and alcoholics for their conditions, because they're an illness so why is it that the Media and so called research TV programmes are allowed to belittle people with such conditions as diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is not always about being fat nor is it about being overweight, when I was diagnosed I was a size 6 and had a very healthy lifestyle. so how can that be my own fault? I'm 100 per cent sure I'm not the only person who was diagnosed with diabetes due to other medical conditions and then put on the pounds because of mobility issues. However the general public don't think of these things when the media are driving it home at every opportunity they get, as to what a strain on the NHS we are. Programs and the media go on about how fat people cost the NHS so much money because they have made themselves fat the general public put everyone into the same box, so if you're fat and type 2 diabetic it has to be your own fault.. does the media think of that when they are reporting how fat people are to blame for their own type 2 diabetes no I don't think so.
Why do we not see documentaries about the strain alcoholics and addicts put on the NHS?
Why doesn't the documentary maker's and the doctor and scientist go out and use some of them as lab rats, they need it far more than T2 diabetics, oh and before anyone starts jumping up and down in horror, let me tell you I am a devoted sister to an alcoholic, addict, and I know how hard it is to get help for them.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Couldn't agree more with your opening comment. The programme has been a hot topic on the forum since it aired. I found it quite formulaic i.e make people cry on camera, fat shame them, teach them very little, have a young pretty/hansome presenter who preferably is some sort of boffin, keep to the middle of the road to avoid litigation and finally leave the results until the end which is congratulations all round. We have seen it all before.

I think we both need to breathe and perhaps have a little drinky poos just to lower our bg which may have risen due to shouting at the telly!
 
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Guzzler said:
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Couldn't agree more with your opening comment. The programme has been a hot topic on the forum since it aired. I found it quite formulaic i.e make people cry on camera, fat shame them, teach them very little, have a young pretty/hansome presenter who preferably is some sort of boffin, keep to the middle of the road to avoid litigation and finally leave the results until the end which is congratulations all round. We have seen it all before.

I think we both need to breathe and perhaps have a little drinky poos just to lower our bg which may have risen due to shouting at the telly!
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Guzzler said:
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Couldn't agree more with your opening comment. The programme has been a hot topic on the forum since it aired. I found it quite formulaic i.e make people cry on camera, fat shame them, teach them very little, have a young pretty/hansome presenter who preferably is some sort of boffin, keep to the middle of the road to avoid litigation and finally leave the results until the end which is congratulations all round. We have seen it all before.

I think we both need to breathe and perhaps have a little drinky poos just to lower our bg which may have risen due to shouting at the telly!
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Just shows how truly groundbreaking the “Truth About Carbs” was. Managed to avoid most of the usual misconceptions and tell it like it is.... well apart from the resistant starch tosh of course.. (can’t be too complementary)..
 
You don't like the resistant starch stuff @bulkbiker? I think it has its place for blood glucose dysregulation prevention. My body is too far gone for it to be a healthy addition to my diet, but if you have normal blood glucose and probably insulin production etc, wouldn't a little resistant starch be good if you are a pasta lover? Ditto potatoes? For prevention purposes?

Re'The Fat Fix' when I saw that two threads had come up talking about this, I foolishly thought it was a doco on how great eating healthy fat would be for one! Foolish me. (Apparently there is one called 'The Big Fat Fix'?) I am still in shock, from reading people's comments, on the disgusting fat and diabetes shaming stuff they put out there on the box. And the autopsy is beyond the pale. Especially considering how hugely common blood glucose dysregulation and diabetes is nowadays - that's a lot of folks to try and shame!

If it's BBC, that means for Brits your own taxes paid for it? Doesn't it? Cause for a huge outcry from all Brits then, but especially diabetic ones. No-one should have to pay for c*** like that. Especially if they were telling you off for having diabetes and costing the country money in the first place. Truly foul and disgusting. Huge amount of complaint letters are called for IMHO. As it is a public service (isn't it?), they DO have to pay attention to public opinion.
 
Oh I saw that it is ITV and not public TV? Then you can complain to some kind of broadcasting standards? (I don't know your system.) Don't let them get away with this! Diabetics unite! etc etc.
 
AloeSvea said:
You don't like the resistant starch stuff @bulkbiker? I think it has its place for blood glucose dysregulation prevention. My body is too far gone for it to be a healthy addition to my diet, but if you have normal blood glucose and probably insulin production etc, wouldn't a little resistant starch be good if you are a pasta lover? Ditto potatoes? For prevention purposes?
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I’m not convinced it works for everyone and know that for me it would be a trigger for eating starchy foods which i avoid at all times. Type 2 pasta lovers I’m afraid have to overcome that addiction so to tempt them with reheated stodge is,in my view, almost as bad as encouraging a recovering alcoholic to start drinking again.
 
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Penny73 said:
I watched this program and I was disgusted to find out that was just another one of those "have a go at the fat person". It constantly reiterated how much diabetics cost the NHS, it constantly reminded those poor people in the program that they were to blame for their own medical condition. We are not allowed as a community to insult or blame addicts and alcoholics for their conditions, because they're an illness so why is it that the Media and so called research TV programmes are allowed to belittle people with such conditions as diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is not always about being fat nor is it about being overweight, when I was diagnosed I was a size 6 and had a very healthy lifestyle. so how can that be my own fault? I'm 100 per cent sure I'm not the only person who was diagnosed with diabetes due to other medical conditions and then put on the pounds because of mobility issues. However the general public don't think of these things when the media are driving it home at every opportunity they get, as to what a strain on the NHS we are. Programs and the media go on about how fat people cost the NHS so much money because they have made themselves fat the general public put everyone into the same box, so if you're fat and type 2 diabetic it has to be your own fault.. does the media think of that when they are reporting how fat people are to blame for their own type 2 diabetes no I don't think so.
Why do we not see documentaries about the strain alcoholics and addicts put on the NHS?
Why doesn't the documentary maker's and the doctor and scientist go out and use some of them as lab rats, they need it far more than T2 diabetics, oh and before anyone starts jumping up and down in horror, let me tell you I am a devoted sister to an alcoholic, addict, and I know how hard it is to get help for them.
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I'm not going to be popular saying this, but I didn't see it as 'fat shaming' at all. I think what they were trying to show was that among T2 diabetics there was a range...from what seemed fairly healthy, average sized individuals, to morbidly obese. And also that there was something most diabetics could do to fix their issues, by themselves, without a huge cost to the NHS. Which, like it or loathe it, most of us are!
The number of diabetics I've spoken to who think that they can't alter their lifestyle or diet to help themselves is truly shocking(I see people nearly every day who are diabetic, and either aren't interested in, or don't want, to fix their condition). They just depend on their GP and 'Diabetes Nurse' to keep them on the right track, and that usually involves eating to NHS guidelines, and increasing weight and medication.
I think a lot of people are guilty of just sitting back once they have this condition and have been put on medication, thinking that they can just carry on in their own sweet way, eating all the carbs and cr*p they want, which is generally how they got to that stage in the first place, myself included.
There's so much ignorance out there, but really, as far as this programme went, it isn't really worth getting excited about.
Those who took part don't seem to have done too badly out of it......I see Tracey promoting Exante meal replacements, and no doubt some of the others will appear promoting other things........
We don't all have to go on an 8 week fasting and meal replacement programme to curb our diabetes. There are other more palatable ways of doing so, such as LCHF or keto, which promote eating good healthy real food.
The problem is that most people don't know what that is anymore, and are constantly confused by so-called 'experts'. The amount of poor quality and conflicting dietary advice for people is what really needs to be addressed...........perhaps ITV could look into that for their next sensationalist report. How the food industry collude with health authorities to keep us sick.......yet I doubt we'll see that one anytime soon!
 
bulkbiker said:
I’m not convinced it works for everyone and know that for me it would be a trigger for eating starchy foods which i avoid at all times. Type 2 pasta lovers I’m afraid have to overcome that addiction so to tempt them with reheated stodge is,in my view, almost as bad as encouraging a recovering alcoholic to start drinking again.
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I have reduced my pasta and rice intake but still enjoy them and find that, for me, cooling and reheating works.
 
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