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The Men Who Made Us Thin - Thu 8th BBC2 21:00

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As obesity escalates, the diet business is booming. In this four-part series, Jacques Peretti investigates the connections between obesity and weight loss, and confronts some of the men making.
 
I've always had an intense dislike of the "diet industry" and the way that it fails to address bad eating patterns. Of course, it's a multi billion pound industry too. Thankfully I have steered clear of women's magazines so that whole subculture of "dieting" is alien to me but sadly a way of life for many women.


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Might be an interesting 'watch' on Thursday eve. Not sure if it's multi-part or a once off.
 
I think it's a series but if you watch one you'd probably get the gist of it. Apparently the failure of WeightWatchers is what keeps the punters coming back. Not to mention their range of cakes and biscuits which hardly promote healthy eating habits.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_Watchers

they're in business to make money...
 

I don't need to eat to my meter as I sorted the food out at the beginning a few years back which is what I thought a meter was supposed to be used for. If I was still using a meter to decide what I could and could not eat after 5 years, then I've 'lost the plot'.
 
Well, you'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that WeightWatchers aren't in the business to make money. Everybody knows that the way to lose weight is to keep your gob shut. :lol:


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janeecee said:
Well, you'd have to be pretty dumb not to know that WeightWatchers aren't in the business to make money. Everybody knows that the way to lose weight is to keep your gob shut. :lol:


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Don't leave out Optifast (Nestle UK Ltd, Croydon, Surrey, UK). I hear they're crying all the way to the bank. Should help keep the MRI unit ticking over too. And, as for those scrummy special 'chocolate bars' .. worth every penny.
 
You wonder about all these chocolate milkshake diets, don't you? They don't re-educate people in eating properly. No wonder some people don't know how to eat these days when the foods that are supposed to make them thin are so much like the foods that made them fat in the first place.


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Just reading the Sun in the pub. Woman loses 9st on wholemeal bread-based diet. Limited diet to below 1200 calories per day apparently. Gave her list of energy to exercise. Can't be true as reporter's name does not end in Stein. Hold on... Its's Levy! Well I never!

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I seem to remember reading on here a few years ago that weight watchers was switching to a low carb diet regime. Or did I dream that?

Whether they did or didnt is largely irrelevant of course as its not the type of diet that makes a difference as any diet that cuts calories will lead to weight loss if followed strictly, its what happens after the diet that makes the difference, if you loose weight but then go back to eating too much you will simply put the lost weight back on often plus a bit more too. Its called yoyo dieting and is what makes diet companies so much money.

To successfully diet and maintain the weight loss you need to cut the calories to diet in the first place and then find the amount of calories that will maintain your new weight and stick to them.
 

Interesting point. I reduced from 16st to 14st over about 4 months. I have also slowly lost a further 1/2 stone over three weeks to 13.5st, having been on a plateau for three months, by reducing fat intake which would also reduce calorie intake.

Having started using MyFitnessPal, for all its faults, my daily calorie intake seems to be 1500. Over the last couple of days (weekend) I have not felt particularly hungry. I ate nothing at all till lunchtime or after (except for 30g chocolate developing my recipe on one of those days) and felt fine. My calorie intake was about 1000 very roughly whereas the 'official' figure says it should be 2000 or thereabouts for a bloke. I feel great, lot's of energy, no hunger. What would a 100% increase in calories do to/for me? People will say I'm a nutter and irresponsible for 'trying' to survive on 1000 cals per day. In reality, by being aware of what my body is saying to me, and only eating when the hunger signals start, things seem to be going fine. I should add that, in spite of the low calories, I maintain a wide choice of nutrition including carbs, fat and protein so I'm not exactly starving my body of crucial nutrients.
 
The diet industry has a lot to answer for, in my opinion. Many women have a strange relationship with food. I don't understand it. I never read women's magazines but whenever I have read one at the dentist or wherever, they seem to foster a strange moral idea about good foods and bad foods, and guilt tripping women about eating 'taboo' foods like chocolate desserts, or something like that. "That naughty chocolate eclair that you ate" etc etc. I just find it a bizarre way of thinking. Women also feel that they have to be a certain size and shape, and dislike their bodies and feel the need to change it. There's a constant stream of revenue for these slimming organisations, and I don't think they foster healthy eating as the solution either.


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