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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 1837227" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Ouch! Peter. The "fake news" thing hurt!</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I find it hard to believe you have read a lot of this forum on the subject, and believe so many posters could be possible of mass lying! If it was generated from this website - how would they have motivated all the work put in to produce <em>so</em> much fake narratives behind the fake news? Who and what would be the gain? Hmmm.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Me too re personal experience on the ND and LCHF. But I am much healthier for it, even with permanent out-of- diabetic -range numbers ie true reversal, has eluded me. (Yet I am a success story in the including prediabetic ranges criteria too I might add.) The rub is, if your personal fat threshold is very low, and for some people it is, according to the ND theory, it can be mighty hard to get to such skinny levels, and maintain it. Some folks do! I am not a person who has been able to. I had a very strong suspicion that for me the personal fat threshold was going to be skinny, not just 'less weight', due to my family female body type. And it seems I was correct. That's the one theory. (Thinking of [USER=473385]@DanType2DiabetesFree[/USER] here too, and his book.) The other theory raised above is there could be too much beta cell death already. I'm hoping the theory about underlying insulin resistance, big time, is what is going on, rather than the oh dear too late pancreatic function failure idea. The bizarre thing is - they don't really know! Yet. Is my understanding. (Or I could be in major denial. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. Quite possible! Hope is lovely!) I'm holding out for the insulin resistance side of the story, in which case I will only get healthier as time goes on, with greater and greater insulin sensitivity. And concommitant is the idea that beta cell function regenerates. But if the beta cell ie pancreas/insulin production theory holds out, then I will get sicker and sicker and have a 70% chance of dying too early from diabetes complications. Oh well. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">By experimenting the way you are, and going for reversal, you are a wonderful human subject in a great big experiment on competing type two diabetes theories. Which is true? Which is true for you? Wait and see! Yay!</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Isn't it exciting?!</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 1837227, member: 150927"] [FONT=Arial]Ouch! Peter. The "fake news" thing hurt! I find it hard to believe you have read a lot of this forum on the subject, and believe so many posters could be possible of mass lying! If it was generated from this website - how would they have motivated all the work put in to produce [I]so[/I] much fake narratives behind the fake news? Who and what would be the gain? Hmmm. Me too re personal experience on the ND and LCHF. But I am much healthier for it, even with permanent out-of- diabetic -range numbers ie true reversal, has eluded me. (Yet I am a success story in the including prediabetic ranges criteria too I might add.) The rub is, if your personal fat threshold is very low, and for some people it is, according to the ND theory, it can be mighty hard to get to such skinny levels, and maintain it. Some folks do! I am not a person who has been able to. I had a very strong suspicion that for me the personal fat threshold was going to be skinny, not just 'less weight', due to my family female body type. And it seems I was correct. That's the one theory. (Thinking of [USER=473385]@DanType2DiabetesFree[/USER] here too, and his book.) The other theory raised above is there could be too much beta cell death already. I'm hoping the theory about underlying insulin resistance, big time, is what is going on, rather than the oh dear too late pancreatic function failure idea. The bizarre thing is - they don't really know! Yet. Is my understanding. (Or I could be in major denial. :). Quite possible! Hope is lovely!) I'm holding out for the insulin resistance side of the story, in which case I will only get healthier as time goes on, with greater and greater insulin sensitivity. And concommitant is the idea that beta cell function regenerates. But if the beta cell ie pancreas/insulin production theory holds out, then I will get sicker and sicker and have a 70% chance of dying too early from diabetes complications. Oh well. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]By experimenting the way you are, and going for reversal, you are a wonderful human subject in a great big experiment on competing type two diabetes theories. Which is true? Which is true for you? Wait and see! Yay! Isn't it exciting?![/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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