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<blockquote data-quote="The_Health_Therapist" data-source="post: 1433898" data-attributes="member: 393964"><p>This is true, I do think the eatwell plate is quite high carb and there is no harm from a nutrient content point of view with a properly planned lower carb diet; this could be a very low carb diet, or just a lower than eatwell plate carb diet (<52%) depending on an individuals insulin resistance.</p><p></p><p>I still believe in getting carbs through fresh fruit and veg, but the rest of the starchy carb equation is mostly for fibre which can be made up from psyllium husk supplementation etc. Should be noted that when people experience lethargy on low carb diets this is a) temporary as the brain adapts to using ketone bodies as a fuel source, b) doesn't affect everyone to the same degree and c) shouldn't happen if carbs are 30% of kcal or above, which may be enough of a reduction in people with only moderate insulin resistance, again the key is what works for the INDIVIDUAL.</p><p></p><p>P.S as a whole the NHS will probably never recommend LCHF or high protein diets, most of the evidence behind them shows the affect on weight loss is largely due to satiety or fullness and this effect doesn't work on everybody, a SMALL number of people will not feel fuller and therefore overeat and there is a difference between LCHF at or below true energy balance (energy balance as calculated using equations is crazy rough and may be influenced slightly by protein content of diet, theoretically at least) and LCHF above true energy balance especially if the latter is also very high in sat fat & low in omega 3. </p><p></p><p>Due to this small risk (that could be completely avoided by a person checking every couple of weeks to make sure they are loosing or at the very least not gaining weight - in which case more omega 3s really reduces the risk too!) in my opinion the NHS will never recommend something that has a small chance of increasing heart disease risk factors even if it will only do so for a very small number of people who fail to lose weight + overeat + eat too much sat fat (not everyone responds to sat fat the same way anyway!) and do not get enough omega 3 (at least 2000mg for heart disease risk modification - make sure its purified to reduce heavy metals - don't exceed 3000mg/day ps check with doctor especially if on anticoagulants as their dose may need changing shouldn't affect diabetes medications, but again please check), people who follow a LCHF, take a soluble fibre supplement and still eat enough veg/fruit for phytonutrients (7 portions (majority veg at least 2 dark green leafy or cruciferous veg)) and have enough vitamins, even if through supplementation, there is no reason why the NHS should not recommend a LCHF diet as said diet would be nutritionally complete.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The_Health_Therapist, post: 1433898, member: 393964"] This is true, I do think the eatwell plate is quite high carb and there is no harm from a nutrient content point of view with a properly planned lower carb diet; this could be a very low carb diet, or just a lower than eatwell plate carb diet (<52%) depending on an individuals insulin resistance. I still believe in getting carbs through fresh fruit and veg, but the rest of the starchy carb equation is mostly for fibre which can be made up from psyllium husk supplementation etc. Should be noted that when people experience lethargy on low carb diets this is a) temporary as the brain adapts to using ketone bodies as a fuel source, b) doesn't affect everyone to the same degree and c) shouldn't happen if carbs are 30% of kcal or above, which may be enough of a reduction in people with only moderate insulin resistance, again the key is what works for the INDIVIDUAL. P.S as a whole the NHS will probably never recommend LCHF or high protein diets, most of the evidence behind them shows the affect on weight loss is largely due to satiety or fullness and this effect doesn't work on everybody, a SMALL number of people will not feel fuller and therefore overeat and there is a difference between LCHF at or below true energy balance (energy balance as calculated using equations is crazy rough and may be influenced slightly by protein content of diet, theoretically at least) and LCHF above true energy balance especially if the latter is also very high in sat fat & low in omega 3. Due to this small risk (that could be completely avoided by a person checking every couple of weeks to make sure they are loosing or at the very least not gaining weight - in which case more omega 3s really reduces the risk too!) in my opinion the NHS will never recommend something that has a small chance of increasing heart disease risk factors even if it will only do so for a very small number of people who fail to lose weight + overeat + eat too much sat fat (not everyone responds to sat fat the same way anyway!) and do not get enough omega 3 (at least 2000mg for heart disease risk modification - make sure its purified to reduce heavy metals - don't exceed 3000mg/day ps check with doctor especially if on anticoagulants as their dose may need changing shouldn't affect diabetes medications, but again please check), people who follow a LCHF, take a soluble fibre supplement and still eat enough veg/fruit for phytonutrients (7 portions (majority veg at least 2 dark green leafy or cruciferous veg)) and have enough vitamins, even if through supplementation, there is no reason why the NHS should not recommend a LCHF diet as said diet would be nutritionally complete. [/QUOTE]
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