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suggs108

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Hi. I'm new here and was diagnosed with type 2 earlier this month. So far I've had a sicknote for 5 weeks in total while my GP sorts out my correct level of medicine as Gliclazide didn't agree with me and now I am on Metformin instead which has been playing havoc with my stomach. I'm starting to feel guilty about being off work and I'm interested to know the length of time others have had off sick for this condition. ? Is 5weeks unreasonable ?

Many Thanks
 
It depends in the employer as well i think but more experienced members could guide yiu better here
 
Welcome. I guess it takes as long as it takes. Not your fault and stressing out only makes it worse. I have now been off work with and recovering from cancer and chemotherapy for eleven months. Your doctor and you are the only people to work out when you go back to work.
Sorry that your post has been unanswered before now. @daisy1 will be along soon with valuable information.
 
Thank you ! I'm so sorry about your problems . And here's me faffing on about something so trivial to yours. I hope you make a full recovery soon .To be honest I have been stressing because I can still get access to my performance at work while I'm off and although I've been told by the colleagues to chill out and forget it until I get better I can't help thinking my performance dip will lead to me being dismissed. Sounds daft doesn't it- feeling guilty for not being at work to do my bit.
 

Hello Suggs108 and welcome to the forum

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will reply, quicker than this time I hope!

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
thank you @daisy1 for your help. I'm managing to get somewhere near those bg levels Uve quoted but like everyone on here it's been bit of a shock and lifestyle changes have had to happen.
 
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Why have they signed you off? My night before diagnosis blood sugar reading was 29, the metformin went straight through me so I went to Gliclazide in the early months. Haven't had so much as a minute off of work though. Not a criticism in any way just wondering why they don't think you are fit for work?

Then this summer after 3 months of out of control levels when no oral meds were touching it, I went onto basal and then bolus was added a fortnight later. Again, still wasn't signed off despite being in the late teens a lot of that period.

Ali
 
Perhaps you should have been signed off ?
 
I think I haven't been signed off because I was originally started on gliclazide that was reduced in the first couple of weeks as I was extremely ill on it. I was then put on Metformin and again was ill with it . Dizzy spells . Vomiting and cramps . I'm going back to my GP on Monday so it may be that he is happy to sign me off then but I received a letter today from hospital recommending the dose of Metformin to be doubled so I'm a bit reluctant to be signed off yet if I get all those same side effects when I get back to work ?
 

Hi Suggs, I am an employer and was diagnosed on the 22nd september 2014 with type 2 , I am borderline but classed as diabetic.
I am at he moment on Metformin and although there was a few near misses with bad stomachs, I was fortunate that it calmed down.

I can only really speak from an employers point of view, but it also personal to me. I have been in business since 1989 and only had 1 day off in all that time, although I have felt very unwell at times with other things like the flue, coughs & colds etc. but as I have had up to 5 employees I have felt it necessary and a duty to always be there at work.

From my perspective if you are able to get about then that should not be a problem going to work, and quite frankly sitting at home thinking about what you have just being diagnosed with, is to me, not healthy, a more positive approach, is that this 'diabetes is not going to control my life' would be the way I would go about it.

Having said all that if one of my employees was signed off for that period of time, it would indeed affect our business here but there could not be a lot I could do, as you have the backing of a doctors note.

Quite frankly the test for me for you, would be ask yourself, do you think you could be at work even though the doctor has signed you off, you are the only one that could answer that question. The mere fact that you are feeling guilty maybe the reason you are asking the question. Also the only thing that has changed is that you are on medication now, you were diabetic before attending the doctors and was working.
Neil
 
Thanks for that. Apart from the odd day for flu or something I attend work every day so you can imagine that this length of time has become a bit of a blow to me as I'm normally one of those employees who take very little time off and try to arrange appointments outside of work hours. I asked my boss if I could return to work last week but he wouldn't let me probably because of liability insurance which is fair enough . But that's another week gone by. Then there's this double dose I need to deal with . Has anyone had the same side effects for Metformin once the dose is increased ? I suppose it depends on the person.
 
Weird question, are your blood sugar levels coming down at all? Did they test u for antibodies found in type 1s?
 
To be honest. I don't know if they tested me . I had a hell of a lot of blood and urine tests taken and now my bg levels on my meter fall between the NiCE guidelines unless I eat something 'stupid'.
 
I think my BG levels were about 14 originally and the other reading was 63. I think?
 
That's cool, it sounds like the medicine is at least working then, if u were type 1 ur sugar would still be high so sounds like they tested. How come the doc signed u off? Is it the reaction to the medicine?
 
That's the thing. He hasn't signed me off. Go back to GP on Monday as my sicknote runs out then. Dunno what he's gonna suggest. I think it is the reaction of both drugs I've taken. I have great luck haha
 
I'm confused, what's a sick note if it's not the GP signing you off from work?
 
A sicknote ( or strangely worded nowadays as a Fitnote) means your not fit to work . Very confusing isn't it . Lol
 
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