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<blockquote data-quote="lucylocket61" data-source="post: 2322797" data-attributes="member: 41885"><p>I am going to stick my neck out and say that decisions will have to be made on the viability of ventilating someone. This is reality and the same as making clinical decisions with any other medical procedure. What is the point of ventilating someone who will be dying anyway, or is at more risk of death due to ventilation?</p><p>I write this as an obese asthmatic who knows that my chances of being first in line for a ventilator are virtually nil. </p><p>I see nothing terrible about them making provision for having a difficult tick list of things to think about when choosing whether to ventilate or not, or any other procedure.</p><p>Knowing the consequences and possible outcomes of ventilation, for example, means people have the opportunity to make an informed decision beforehand, just as we do with other conditions. </p><p>Why is it considered sinister? The sinister thing would be to make those decisions with no previous discussion with people who are vulnerable.</p><p>I cant see the medical staff going along with involuntary euthanasia (murder) on behalf of the government - I think that goes too far and is against all we have seen so far from the medics.</p><p>DNR discussions are nothing new. Cancer patients and others with critical illnesses or incurable conditions have had to deal with the discussion for decades, including people I know.</p><p></p><p>So what am I missing here - I want fact, not speculation and alarmism on this one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lucylocket61, post: 2322797, member: 41885"] I am going to stick my neck out and say that decisions will have to be made on the viability of ventilating someone. This is reality and the same as making clinical decisions with any other medical procedure. What is the point of ventilating someone who will be dying anyway, or is at more risk of death due to ventilation? I write this as an obese asthmatic who knows that my chances of being first in line for a ventilator are virtually nil. I see nothing terrible about them making provision for having a difficult tick list of things to think about when choosing whether to ventilate or not, or any other procedure. Knowing the consequences and possible outcomes of ventilation, for example, means people have the opportunity to make an informed decision beforehand, just as we do with other conditions. Why is it considered sinister? The sinister thing would be to make those decisions with no previous discussion with people who are vulnerable. I cant see the medical staff going along with involuntary euthanasia (murder) on behalf of the government - I think that goes too far and is against all we have seen so far from the medics. DNR discussions are nothing new. Cancer patients and others with critical illnesses or incurable conditions have had to deal with the discussion for decades, including people I know. So what am I missing here - I want fact, not speculation and alarmism on this one. [/QUOTE]
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