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Trying to come out of denial

VickyJo68

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Type of diabetes
Don't have diabetes
Hi

So I went to the GP in the New Year to discuss why I never seem to get better, as I have an underactive thyroid and as suspected those levels were out. However, the GP felt that I needed up to date tests all round. I was quite shocked to find out today that my blood glucose was 14.7 and my HbA1c was 90.

I understand this is high, but don't understand this very well so is denial normal and how did people come to terms with it?

Thanks

Vicky
 
Are you T2?

Yes it was a huge shock to me in Oct with my diagnosis. How did I come to terms with it, was to become focussed and determined to get this under control with a strict LCHF diet [already Low Carbed LC for 14 years] so lots more research entailed.

Currently watching these informative videos from DrKenDBerry
 
Forget the "denial" piece. You have something radically wrong so do something NOW and take control !! What is your diet and are you overweight? Blunt but necessary
 
Hi I go back to see the Diabetic Nurse for the first time next week, so the GP indicated that it was likely to be T2. It just seemed to be a sudden thing in my eyes and know it is going to take a huge change on my part. Thank you so much for responding.

Vicky
 
Forget the "denial" piece. You have something radically wrong so do something NOW and take control !! What is your diet and are you overweight? Blunt but necessary
Blunt is good. Before my Thyroid Diagnosis I put a lot of weight on and it took a long time to stabilise this and everyone I thought it was sorted my levels went out of sync again and do the cycle went on. I don't use that aspect as an excuse, but the mental issues that came with it wrecked havoc! Now I known I have to get to grips with it all.

Thank you
 
Hi

So I went to the GP in the New Year to discuss why I never seem to get better, as I have an underactive thyroid and as suspected those levels were out. However, the GP felt that I needed up to date tests all round. I was quite shocked to find out today that my blood glucose was 14.7 and my HbA1c was 90.

I understand this is high, but don't understand this very well so is denial normal and how did people come to terms with it?

Thanks

Vicky

It is shocking but you’ve got to be brave to face it my dear.

We are here to help and support!

Please read this -

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/foods#foodlist
 
That's how I travel .... and I'll bet your diet needs some work. Again, what do you eat? People here can turn around those figures quickly, so knuckle down and give it all your attention. Halved my HbA1C in 3 months
 
My HbA1c was 98 on diagnosis so I know what you are going through. It is, indeed, very high but I lowered my level to 43 within four months by cutting back on carbohydrates. I was in denial for about three months after the diagnosis especially because I had none of the classic symptoms. Coming to terms with a life changing diagnosis is never easy and may take some time but what helped me apart from the fantastic advice and support from members here on the forum was concentrating on my lifestyle changes which had an almost immediate effect on my blood glucose levels and my HbA1c. I bought a meter so I could see in black and white that things were improving and this really did help to ameliorate the denial I was in.
When you have control of your own health like this it is empowering and it can even have the effect of improving your life in other ways. Chin up, you can get over this and you can start today. Good luck.
 
Hey Vickyjo68, you have come to the right place to get advice and encouragement.....denial isn't a good thing, but one many of us here have experienced - sometimes to our detriment, so hopefully you won't let that happen to you! Hopefully @daisy1 will be along soon with her wonderful information "packet" that will give you a great overview about this new journey you are embarking on. It may contain some information that seems contrary to what you hear from your diabetes nurse, unless she has researched things that are new in the way of treating diabetes, so don't be surprised, but remember that you are the one who decides what you do or don't do....It is a marathon, not a sprint as you will hear us say on this Forum, but believe me when I say this Forum is a caring, informative, lively group of sojourners!! Feel free to ask any question - no question is "dumb" is your intent is to learn - rant, share a victory, etc. We are here for you! Blessings/L
 
That's how I travel .... and I'll bet your diet needs some work. Again, what do you eat? People here can turn around those figures quickly, so knuckle down and give it all your attention. Halved my HbA1C in 3 months
I admit I have to take full responsibility in that I eat rubbish and that's if I eat at all sometimes.
 
My HbA1c was 98 on diagnosis so I know what you are going through. It is, indeed, very high but I lowered my level to 43 within four months by cutting back on carbohydrates. I was in denial for about three months after the diagnosis especially because I had none of the classic symptoms. Coming to terms with a life changing diagnosis is never easy and may take some time but what helped me apart from the fantastic advice and support from members here on the forum was concentrating on my lifestyle changes which had an almost immediate effect on my blood glucose levels and my HbA1c. I bought a meter so I could see in black and white that things were improving and this really did help to ameliorate the denial I was in.
When you have control of your own health like this it is empowering and it can even have the effect of improving your life in other ways. Chin up, you can get over this and you can start today. Good luck.
Thank you so much that gives me a lot of hope x
 
Hey Vickyjo68, you have come to the right place to get advice and encouragement.....denial isn't a good thing, but one many of us here have experienced - sometimes to our detriment, so hopefully you won't let that happen to you! Hopefully @daisy1 will be along soon with her wonderful information "packet" that will give you a great overview about this new journey you are embarking on. It may contain some information that seems contrary to what you hear from your diabetes nurse, unless she has researched things that are new in the way of treating diabetes, so don't be surprised, but remember that you are the one who decides what you do or don't do....It is a marathon, not a sprint as you will hear us say on this Forum, but believe me when I say this Forum is a caring, informative, lively group of sojourners!! Feel free to ask any question - no question is "dumb" is your intent is to learn - rant, share a victory, etc. We are here for you! Blessings/L
Thank you so
 
I admit I have to take full responsibility in that I eat rubbish and that's if I eat at all sometimes.

We all have at some point to some degree. Cut out sugars and carbs to a significant degree. No rice, no breads, no cereals, no below ground vegetables, no soft drinks, many fruits.

Read the forum every day and ask anything. What we're here for
 
I admit I have to take full responsibility in that I eat rubbish and that's if I eat at all sometimes.

Please do not blame yourself. We have had a lot of poor advice about diet for decades and the rubbish foods surround us all the time. Most of us had a splurge over Christmas (some, me, more than others!). It is very easy and very cheap to eat the wrong things. Plus there is said to be a genetic pre disposition involved in T2 so there are members whose diets were 'tip top' but they still developed Diabetes.

With a little planning you can change your lifestyle and reap the benefits.
 
@VickyJo68

Hello VickyJo and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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