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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jjraak" data-source="post: 2412149" data-attributes="member: 493719">The two posts above..SPOT ON.Have to wonder how long before the stain effect leaves a persons body, though ?could it be the statins causing the rise, even after you stopped ?If i could, i would liken T2D Treatment being from the past and using data far beyond it's use by date.Most data is dominated by the historical.and for diabetes that would have been before libre and deffo before LCHF/keto had such a following.so back in the day, we all listened to doctors and did as we were told.after all they studied for ages to be experts in a given field.But the give away is in the field, aka General Practitioner. GPhow one earth could they update themselves on everything.We however CAN, because it's personal, so we MAKE the time, so all the stats are screwed because SO many followed the given advice , because where else MIGHT they get the idea others ways MIGHT be better..mmhh.WE now have the web..so the wisdom of crowds..(in my signature, well worth a watch )comes to the fore, people save themselves and pass on the message, and others follow  by observing how well those others did YET that data has still to dilute the OLD, OLD, data sourcesso while many have MUCH better Lipid panels..<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />D)dogma says all T2D are the same . so must be treated accordingly.we will get there eventually, but for now, far too many have to wrestle with the idea of abandoning the structures they knew and trusted,for a framework of support that MAKES good sense, yet doesn't have the backing of the majority of the Medical establishment.long story short.Kids no longer sweep chimneysbecause we've moved on.Current T2D practice is too far weighted by the old ways.we need more enlightened doctors like Dr Unwin, a few more years and this idea T2D's naturally die early, of CVD will be outmoded.As will the "you MUST have statins ASAP"For now, we must endure & educate ourselves.There is even some disagreement that lower cholesterol is even good for us.and that many might benefit as they age from Cholesterol being higher, as it may have a protective factor.</blockquote>

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