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Type 1..Raised cholesterol

cjp

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Hi Guys, I am new here so be gentle

I am a type 1 diabetic who is currently 28, I have had diabetes since I was 6 and recently have had issues with my cholesterol.

Its currently 5.0 and I am not taking anything for it but my doctor wants to start me on a statin...is this wise or should I tell them to shove it , everything else seems ok, My last 2 HB1A was 6.9 and 6.8 ...(Currently on 2 injections of Novomix a day and novorapid when needed)

Cheers

Chris
 
Hi Chris and welcome to the forum On statins...opinions are very divided on the forum so I think it's best to let the members come forward with their views. As far as I am concerned, I have been getting stiffness which I suspect may be caused by statins, so I have reduced my dose, but I continue taking a small dose as, because of my family history and high cholesterol levels, I really need them.

Here is some general information about diabetes which we give to new members, even those as experienced as you are. I hope you will find something in here which is useful to you. Ask as many questions as you like as there is usually someone here who will have an answer for you.

 
Hi cjp

Just to state where I'm coming from, I'm a Type 2 who took statins for 3 years pre-diagnosis and gradually developed muscle pains and stiffness which began to wear off as soon as I stopped the statins. I am now a refusnik; I will never take them again. Many people have no problems and can take them quite happily.

I've read round quite a lot on the subject, and I personally would be quite happy with a total cholesterol reading of 5.0 (my most recent one was 5.4). Many people would disagree with me!

I am far more interested in my full lipid profile - I aim for targets of:

Total: below 5.18
HDL: above 1.04
Triglycerides: below 1.7, and the lower the better
Calculated LDL: 3.3 or lower
Total/HDL ratio: less than 5

(all in mmol/l). I can't remember where I got these from, but I've been working to them for a few years now. They are for the general population. I know that "they" think that diabetics should keep their cholesterol lower, but I don't know the recommended figures for diabetics. Can anyone else help on that? for the full lipid profile?

You are entitled to a print-out of your full lipid profile (and all your blood test results) from your GP. If you don't have them, ask for them, study them, read around and see what you think.

There are pros and cons for statins, and some people seem to have no problems with them. I can only speak for myself, and advise you to read around on the subject, looking at both positives and negatives.

Good luck!

Viv 8)
 
Hi Chris,

The choice is yours to tell the doctor to ''shove it''......as daisy says opinions are divided on statins so your never gonna get the answer your looking for on here..... only you can decide to take/ignore your health-care professionals advice!

The target cholesterol numbers for diabetics are as follows:

HDL: 1mmol/l or above for men; 1.2mmol/l or above for women

LDL: below 2mmol/l

Triglycerides: equal to or below 1.7mmol/l

Total cholesterol: below 4mmol/l


Here is some useful advice from The British Heart Foundation regarding cholesterol:

http://www.bhf.org.uk/heart-health/cond ... terol.aspx


Good luck!
 
Hi cjp

Ask your Doctor the % of the good fats and the % of the bad fats in your cholesterol test.

If the good fats % outweigh the bad fats % you may not need to go on statins.
If the bad fats % outweigh the good fats % you may need to sit down and look at what you are actually eating, maybe try to cut out 'naughty stuff' and look at the results from your next cholesterol test :?

Good luck
 
Hi CJP,

My cholesterol is normal (3.9) but my doctor still tries to prescribe statins. He believes that all diabetics should be on them, especially if they have been on insulin for a long time. I have always turned them down and will continue to do so unless my cholesterol becomes high. That's my personal choice though. Why not suggest to your doctor that you give it x months to get your cholesterol down to an agreed level (not that it's particulary high at the minute)? See how that goes and then, if necessary, relook at the statins later on.
 
My husband is not a diabetic but is on statins to reduce his cholesterol. He's also on many other drugs for various proplems including Prevascan (french) a blood thinner and because I have been told to avoid all sugar T2 diabetes we have taken note of what is being written on this forum and will now start on the low carb diet which we feel will benefit us both. My question is because he's not a diabetic does he need to avoid everything containing sugar?
 
Hi Libbym,

If you're going low-carb then your husband does need to avoid sugar, because sugar is a carbohydrate. All carbs are converted to glucose in the body, which is why a low-carb or reduced carb diet is in most cases very good for keeping blood glucose readings at an acceptable level. Starchy carbs - bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, cereal - are the things you need to control your intake of.

A carb counter book is very useful - eg Collins do one in their 'Gem' series which is pocket-sized. Get into the habit of reading food labels - it's total carbs you need to look at, not just sugar.

However, if your husband is not diabetic then he can include things like biscuits, breakfast cereal etc as long as he sticks to the daily carb total he has decided on.

I find Splenda, either the tablets or the granulated form, a good sugar substitute for drinks, sprinkling on fruit etc. Other types of sweetener are available!

I try to stick to less than 30g of carb a day because I have a lot of weight to lose. Others (eg Grazer) get perfectly good BG results on 100g - 150g of carbs daily. That allows him to eat low GI foods such as Shredded Wheat and wholemeal or multi-grain bread, which are processed more slowly by the body. Still others (eg Sid Bonkers) restrict their carbs by eating everything but having only small portions of carbohydrate foods.

At the beginning, testing your BG levels before and 2 hours after meals is useful to work out how different carbs affect you.

Good luck!

Viv 8)
 
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