Fairygodmother
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Night night all. The roller coaster was only sleeping, it woke up after lunch and it took some dedicated cracking of Fiasp whips to tame it again. Tired now so hoping the roller coaster sleeps again tonight.
"In the theme park, the quiet theme park, the roller coaster sleeps tonight" ?
But it 'beats' watching paint dry or popping bubble plastic !!
Sorry nope NOTHING beats popping bubble plastic
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Morning y'all, a waking 4.2 but had dipped under 4 whilst sleeping, I've dropped 1u from my breakfast bolus and hope to swim early lunch, but I'll see what my bloods are doing first
Other than that a lazy day I think.
i have never gained weight in fact i struggle to maintain weight some times i only take small amounts of insulin other times large depending on carb values so myself personally dont associate weight gain with taking insulin i would more likely say the amount and type of food eaten would be the cause .but thats just my opinionTwo fresh loaves out of the oven ... Just to annoy the curmudgeonly ones.
The last loaf has just been put in to bake.
The downside if this baking is having to get up early if I'm planning on doing anything else with my day.
Bg behaved over night. I am thinking of calling it, or my next pump "Robin" after Robin Gibb the Beegee who sang "Staying Alive".
A few comments have made me realise a hole in my diabetes knowledge: the bit about insulin causing weight gain.
I understand not taking insulin, raises bg and leads to weight loss.
I think I also understand insulin resistance leads to weight gain and adding extra insulin can exaggerate insulin resistance.
But, if you have type 1 and no insulin resistance, can taking larger amounts of insulin due to higher carb meals lead to weight gain. Or is it just the carbs causing it?
Over the 15 years I have had diabetes and frequently eaten what some would consider high carb meals, I have experienced no weight gain.
I am still average height with a healthy bmi ... and still struggling to find clothes manufacturers that consider it a good idea to make clothes that are not too big for me.
Sorry, I got a bit distracted by another soapbox there... Can injected insulin cause weight gain for someone with type 1 diabetes?
Isn't that just calories in causing weight gain? If the calories were far, the same would happen except no need for insulin.
Some people seem to have a fear of taking I sulin because they would gain weight. This is the bit I think I am missing something.
@helensaramay hope the loaf came out OKTwo fresh loaves out of the oven ... Just to annoy the curmudgeonly ones.
The last loaf has just been put in to bake.
The downside if this baking is having to get up early if I'm planning on doing anything else with my day.
Bg behaved over night. I am thinking of calling it, or my next pump "Robin" after Robin Gibb the Beegee who sang "Staying Alive".
A few comments have made me realise a hole in my diabetes knowledge: the bit about insulin causing weight gain.
I understand not taking insulin, raises bg and leads to weight loss.
I think I also understand insulin resistance leads to weight gain and adding extra insulin can exaggerate insulin resistance.
But, if you have type 1 and no insulin resistance, can taking larger amounts of insulin due to higher carb meals lead to weight gain. Or is it just the carbs causing it?
Over the 15 years I have had diabetes and frequently eaten what some would consider high carb meals, I have experienced no weight gain.
I am still average height with a healthy bmi ... and still struggling to find clothes manufacturers that consider it a good idea to make clothes that are not too big for me.
Sorry, I got a bit distracted by another soapbox there... Can injected insulin cause weight gain for someone with type 1 diabetes?
just as a little comment @kitedoc I had hypothyroidism for years before I developed T1D, both are autoimmune diseases. For me, both have caused weight gain. TBH, I often consider not taking my basal.Baking bread certainly spurs on your thinking processes @helensaramay !
From reading and thinking (whilst flying or making kites - a non-edible pastime) and not as professional opinion or advice.
When I think about pre-diabetes and T2D, they are described as due to a mistiming of insulin release which seems to allow BSLs from a meal to rise before the belated insulin surge can catch up and quell it. And that insulin surge is larger than otherwise as it attempts to catch up with the BSL peak.. Then maybe at the 3 to 4 hour mark that surge of insulin can cause a drop in BSL and low blood sugar causes hunger and need to eat more. Weight gain may be a consequence of this. And the more body weight gained the more insulin required to service the body's needs.
Now if I think about being a TID and having so much insulin that I am experiencing that horrid BSL see-saw - I go hypo then eat, go hyper, inject more insulin, go hypo, eat, go hyper. Whilst not caused by the same thing as T2D, the pattern of increased insulin, eating, carbs taken for hypos assists conversion of glucose into triglycerides and entering into fat cells is likely to lead to weight gain.
Of course we are all different in how we handle food and how difficult or easy it is for us each to gain or lose weight.
Some of us store fat easily and that is often explained as a form of metabolism which worked well in times when food was scarce.
Think of hunter-gatherer societies. T2D becomes a problem when these societies with their metabolic inheritance encounter modern times, food becomes plentiful and the traditional diets are no longer followed.
A study of Australian aborigines with T2D showed that by returning to their traditional foods (bush tucker) diabetes control improved markedly. "Diabetes in Australian aboriginals: possible ways forward". MJA.com.au K. O'Dea May 2007.
Such traditional diets are low carb, high protein and fat. Surprise, surprise!
As an aside, there is a theory about why TID is more prevalent in temperate and cold climates. It is thought those best able to survive harsh cold climates had metabolisms which stored fat well, and also relatively higher BSLs make blood less likely to freeze. nbci.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15893109 "The sweet thing about Type 1 diabetes: a cyto-protective adaption. Moelem 2005.
This may have enabled them to survive and reproduce and their relatively short life times did not allow time for diabetic complications to arise.
If we store food less well, maybe to not absorb it as efficiently as others, we do not gain weight as readily. We can tolerate a more steady food intake and store less bodily. ? does this fit with societies who farmed the land more extensively than hunter-gatherer societies and did not need to migrate with the seasons??
Of course other factors with diabetes such as increased chance of developing thyroid conditions, coeliac disease might also affect body weight.
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I agree about the weight thingy and age and I've been trying, unsuccessfully since being T1D, to stop the creep.I gained weight once I was diagnosed ( I went down to 7st 1), but have maintained the same weight since I was about 20 ( diagnosed at 31 years) give or take a couple of pounds. Keeping active does help with my weight control, also as we get older weight tends to be added on, as I have with so many people of my age and I am try my hardest not to go down that route.
My Insulin intake for the whole day, NovoRapid x 3 and Tresiba x 1, is around 25-27 units.
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